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[–] not_that_guy05 134 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"But the Democrats made us do it. It's all their fault." - Every Republican that has been on the news.

Fuckin singles cunts can't even handle their own party and want to handle the country.

[–] Daft_ish 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sounds incredibly difficult to reign in a party that is only united in one thing. Opposing the democrats. Ideologically they have no unifying belief other than 'democrats bad.' Add to it each one of them is (not so) secretly vying for their own personal gain. It's a wonder anything gets done with these nobs leaching off the system.

[–] not_that_guy05 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. They have no plan to fall on beside using Democrats as the boogie man. I found only one of them with a back boned and went on air saying that he would never vote for someone that has been saying the election was stolen. Sadly he will likely be voted out next year for being honest.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

25 Republicans publicly voted against Jim Jordan, but in a subsequent secret ballot, a whopping 122 didn't want him as speaker

The GOP is sick, the majority can't even share their opinion for fear of MAGA terrorist death threats

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[–] Decoy321 20 points 1 year ago

This is the real kicker here. It's all just theatre to keep attention on themselves while they gridlock the House from doing any meaningful work. Then they'll use it as an excuse to say Dems can't get anything done.

[–] shalafi 82 points 1 year ago

Remember when Obama chastised his Republican Congress for failing to pass the yearly roads bill? Because they didn't want him to get a "win" by signing it? Boy howdy! Glad those crazy times are past us!

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 77 points 1 year ago

That's what happens when you vote for trolls. They can't actually lead anything.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a party that isn't unified.

We need more choices.

This 2-party nonsense is bad for America.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The house is only 50.8% republican.

When the senate is 50/50 they come to compromise favoring the party who has the white house/vp/tie breaking vote.

When the house is effectively 50/50 they apparently shut the government down for weeks on end.

The country voted 49/47 for Democrats so we will all held hostage while the minority figures out who their leader is? Even if their new leader was so great bills would have to pass the Senate (where the minority generally thinks they are too extreme) and the white house where again the opposition controls that part of the government.

Maybe the founders weren't all knowing after all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any system is vulnerable to bad actors. The checks and balances in this case are not voting for idiots, but

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The point isn't that they were morons, the point is that times change. Mistakes are made.

[–] madcaesar 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The founders sadly never could predict that one party would become Unamerican and 40% of the populace have their brain rotten away by lead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Considering the time they lived in, a strange oversight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

iirc Geoerge Washington already said the system is fucked and the effective limit to two parties will make it fail eventually.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its almost like theres a new party forming or something

[–] slaacaa 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow that would be something, breaking up of the GOP. Dems could rule with stable majority for next 20 years - except they would surely fuck it up somehow.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Probably the best point in time to change the constitution to remove first past the post rules wherever possible if that's the case

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't know that I would get too excited about a small, but growing, fascist movement forming its own party. Seems we've seen that one before, didn't seem to work out great.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

New Whig party!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't decide how corrupt and evil they want to be

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are a party made of people looking for a quick money scheme. They just can't agree who's the head grifter

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Wannabe pyramid scheme

[–] zepheriths 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because 12 of them will only elect a maga one.

[–] Lemminary 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm glad that they're holding out. The less they're touching legislation like a bunch of conniving molesters by abusing their majority, the better.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's their goal. Paralyze congress, prevent funding bills and critical legislation from even being voted on, and then go to their voters and blame their failures on the "non-cooperative" democrats.

[–] Red_October 13 points 1 year ago

The voters who would believe Democrats are the ones who are obstructing government, and the voters who would ever vote for anyone who isn't a Republican, have no overlap.

[–] devbo 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are you telling me people in the same party, of a 2 party system, can have some differing opinions? crazy thought.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's the thing. The job of a Congress member is to create compromise and work for all the people. If they can't work the most basic part of the job, what good are they?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

So in 250+ years this has never happened, but you're totally cool with it because it jives with some misconception you have about what's really going on? The real reason this is happening is that the Republicans, through gerrymandering and collective cowardice, have allowed themselves to be taken over by a crazed nihilistic extremist minority. It's not about different opinions.

[–] Dkarma 9 points 1 year ago

Doubly so when you realize "fall in line" has been their mantra for the past 30 years and the straw that broke that camels back was checks notes bipartisanship...

[–] rifugee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey, there's 2 parties, so 2 opinions. Plenty! If we had more options, we would all suffer from decision paralysis, right!? Right?

[–] TheOneWithTheHair 22 points 1 year ago
[–] nucleative 22 points 1 year ago

Only a majority vote is required to expel a member. The Dems would probably help too.

Get started 😂

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Tell them they're not getting paid until they have elected a speaker. Watch how quickly they'll sort themselves out.

[–] Boddhisatva 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not very quickly. How many of them are multimillionaires? Go ahead, guess. Here's a hint.

More than half of those in Congress are millionaires, data from lawmakers’ most recent personal financial disclosures shows. The median net worth of members of Congress who filed disclosures last year is just over $1 million. 

They won't care if they miss a year's worth of paychecks if they can hurt poor people by doing so.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why withholding their salary is not a good idea, it only affects those who aren't already well off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Redirect the money to planned parenthood, watch how fast they act.

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[–] Red_October 15 points 1 year ago

Good thing the Republicans have a long history of bi-partisan cooperation in the interest of a smoothly functioning government, and thus have built up a reserve of good will they can call upon to help resolve this dilemma, right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This .meme just encourages partisanship. Parties having locked unity seems worse for democracy than dissent.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when we talk policies this argument has some merit, but we are talking fundamental proceedings to enable the parliament to be able to work at all.

if a party cannot get this straight and its members to compromise for that,then this harms democracy much more. It paralyzes and ultimately delegitimizesdemocracy as a form of government,which is precisely what the MAGA hats want.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree. I think the whole situation will force Republicans to work with Democrats because now that there's 3 "parties," there will have to be more compromises.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Only there are no three parties, but two. Any republican who deviates from that will soon find no more support from his party for the next election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s how it’s supposed to work, elected officials represent their constituents not their party

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not how Republicans work though, tow the party line is sort of their mantra

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Uh, no, this is not in fact how it's supposed to work. Not even close. This is why it's never happened before.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about if the government shuts down there is an emergency re-election of all members of whatever segment of government caused it.

All of them, all sides. Not eligible for re-election because they obviously FAILED at their job.

The average working person doesn't get a chance if they shut down their "company."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like an easy system to abuse.

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