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[–] Gingerlegs 112 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop “threatening” and fucking do it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

200mil fraud here, sexual alligations left and right, suspected treason. But this time, oh boy we are relly threatening him.

[–] Zerlyna 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So sick of threats. He was told to keep his mouth shut. He hasn’t. Time for him to see consequences for his actions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The stripe on this skunk is a whole yellow ~~belt~~ belly.*

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[–] Riccosuave 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] open2db8 9 points 1 year ago

"This judge is a coward", I think .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s been fucking around for his entire life. Can we PLEASE get to the “find out” phase already?

[–] Darorad 25 points 1 year ago

I do kinda get being cautious, don't want to give him any grounds for appeal, but this is so blatant. He literally doxxed the prosecutor, how can they not hold him in contempt.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuckin do it. How many times do I have to read online "if it was me I'd be in jail already"?

[–] guacupado 5 points 1 year ago

Seriously. More empty threats for the rich.

[–] Ensign_Crab 30 points 1 year ago

Shit or get off the pot, your honor.

[–] girlfreddy 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am looking forward to watching the logistics play out of imprisoning Trump along with his Secret Service detail.

One wonders if he'll need a whole floor of cells for his entourage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oooh, so like prisoners are charged for for their upkeep and tfg’s ss detail was billed at double or more usual rates at his properties, we’re going to charge those excesses for ss upkeep?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I’m just floored that the judges issuing these gag orders don’t just take 15 extra minutes to add in some legal clauses that make it clear that shenanigans/“uWu I didn’t know I couldn’t do that”/“it was an accident I swear!” bullshit is not going to be considered a valid defense. This boundary-pushing shit needs to be smacked down with a fucking sledgehammer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's said he's happy to go to jail and I believe him.

I'm not saying it shouldn't happen but if it does it will grow and solidify support for him even more and whilst he's very far from a smart man, he's cunning enough to know this and use it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope. His supporters like him because he gets away with things. They want to be him because they want power. They have little control over their daily lives and they think they deserve more, by any means necessary.

If he's locked up it's a downer. It makes him look weak. If you think jail will make Trump a martyr, you don't understand why his supporters like him.

They want power. They want to be on top. When (not if) he's put under house arrest, he will go down in popularity.

[–] macrocephalic 6 points 1 year ago

So they like the politicians who don't get captured?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how I see it at all. He has constantly played on his persecution complex - his whole schtick since 2020 has been conspiracy based on a 'stolen election' and how they're all out to get him - and it's very popular. He's the leading republican nominee. His supporters will see him being jailed as confirmation of everything he's already saying 'they all hate Trump', 'they're trying to stop Trump being president'.

He understands exactly what motivates his supporters and him being perfectly happy to go to jail for contempt should tell you everything you need to know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He acts persecuted but rarely is actually punished. That's the key. You're trusting him when he tells you he's persecuted.

He was punished by Covid and lost the election. He and most of the people he supported lost the election. Republicans lost both GA Senate seats because of him (and good GOTV work by Democrats).

It was one of the biggest electoral losses in history for an incumbent president, mainly because his supporters were not as energized as Democrats.

When (not if) he loses one of his many felony cases, they are going to put him under house arrest and he will not be able to campaign. He will look like a powerless loser and his supporters will be dejected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He acts persecuted but rarely is actually punished. That’s the key. You’re trusting him when he tells you he’s persecuted.

No, I'm not - but every single one of his supporters and all those wavering are.

Your country sleptwalked into a Trump presidency in 2016 because everyone thought it wasn't possible for him to win, because it was clear how awful he is. You're running the risk of underestimating him again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your country

Oh, you're from somewhere outside the US. Your ideas about Trump supporters mean very little now, since you don't actually interact with them in daily life. Online doesn't count. Those are mainly edgy teens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And trolls, don't forget trolls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I said "edgy teens" already.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You do realise there's more ways to learn about group behaviour than interacting with the group online?

[–] guacupado 3 points 1 year ago

He's fine with it because he knows jail for him won't be like jail for the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will only solidify support among those who already support him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To a point, that's true. But it will also convince the easily swayed. Definitely in enough numbers to get re-elected if there's a repetition of voter behaviour of 2016. I just really hope everyone who can, votes. Or, failing that, he gets sent down for life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Bro pls stop threatening and do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever it takes to get his ass behind bars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It'll never happen. At best he'll get house arrest.

[–] ghostdoggtv 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point I have to assume he's bought the judges off. Why else do they refuse to uphold the rules.

[–] tacosplease 5 points 1 year ago

We hear about all of the bad behavior and warnings, but many people don't realize it's all happening in a number of cases. Warnings from one trial don't generally carry over to a different trial.

Cannon in FL is not paid off. She's doing it for free because she's a MAGA idiot.

Chutkan is being fair but somewhat cautious/gracious to avoid an appeal if (when) Trump gets convicted for J6.

Engoron - the one in the article - is an old school republican. But he's also an old school judge. His pretrial rulings have been swift and fair. He seems to understand Trump is full of shit, and he's also not just rubber stamping everything the prosecution requests.

There's plenty wrong with our legal system, but none of these judges have been bought off.