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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People will point out that US health does get a decent chunk of money, though they'll leave out that it goes to others (insurance profit) so the care part doesn't actually get that value. Like how US spends more just in tax per-capita than many countries with universal care spend total, but we get significantly less for it.

So really it should mirror the war table but with a fat CEO or two smoking a cigar, with the emaciated doctor excluded from the table.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, now. Sciences gets a little bit on their dish when it makes something for war.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 16 points 1 year ago

It's a sausage, shaped like an A-bomb

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Science is in the kitchen, redoing the duck confit for the third fucking time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Anti-Chef, is that you?

[–] uis 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Context: this is translated image from soviet magazine issued in 1953, right after Stalin's death.

Also Sciences table is Libraries table.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Valid criticism, even though Soviet Union fell victim to the very same thing later on

[–] Rhoeri 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This just proves we are not getting smarter as time goes on.

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[–] Son_of_dad 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Metal Gear solid is what really opened my eyes to a global economy being supported by war. I know war and conflict is to an extent, part of being human. But it's been monetized and it's become too big to fail.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

The military industrial complex has become too big to fail, because it is jobs provider for many places that don't have much resources. It's not a coincidence that many defense contractors are headquartered in peripheral regions like the American South West desert and Scotland. These places don't have much to offer in terms of resources so they became dependent on the industry. Either that, or they become tax haven like other small entities like Ireland, Luxembourg and Seychelles.

I'm not trying to justify the existence of MICs by the way, I'm explaining why the industry became intertwined. Although, I believe there is just war if a country is either provoked or to stop atrocities, such as the NATO intervention in Yugslav wars and supporting Ukraine against the Russian invasion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the writing in that game was too on point.

They did a great job of blending the surreal nature of MGS with the real world and current events.

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[–] benjihm 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sagrotan 7 points 1 year ago

And there are no "sides", every one loses, even and especially the ones who think they win money, power or land will lose in the end. When will they finally get it that we all live on this insignificant pebble in dark cold space and we have to grow up instead of fighting like spoiled toddlers in a sandbox.

[–] Cloral 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This cartoon is from 70 years ago. 80 years ago was 1943 which was in the middle of World War 2. At that point, war getting a sizable chunk of the GDP was perhaps more understandable. So the caption on the cartoon actually undersells it.

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[–] Cringe2793 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because the people who are in charge haven't changed much. Sure, their names have changed, but they're largely the same type of person who do the same types of things.

[–] trolololol 3 points 1 year ago

Their first names have changed, the families are all the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is longer true. Social security, Medicare, and medicaid are all less than 80 years old and make up more of the federal budget than defense spending.

These are the top 5 budget item according to the us treasury for 2022. Social security 23% Heath 15% National defense 13% Medicare 13% Income security 13%

“Veterans benefits and services” is another category which I guess could be considered war spending or healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Social security is paying back what people have put into it, nobody alive today is collecting from it without having paid in to it their entire working life. It seems misleading to call this an expenditure in the sense that military spending is.

There is also a distinct difference between healthcare spending and healthcare being received. The US spends a lot on “healthcare” that is actually insane insurance profiteering or useless administrative costs. There’s a reason the US has the highest expenditure per person in the world, but the worst health outcomes among any industrialized nation (and worse than some developing nations if you’re a minority).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Preach! "Medicare-For-All", Single-Payer, whatever you want to call it, we need universal healthcare! It's literally better and cheaper.

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[–] MisterNeon 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

History doesn't repeat, it plagiarizes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well kinda depends on the country. Switzerland spends 2 bilion for the military but 8 bilion for education and 35 bilion for health care. I am sure, the balance looks pretty similar or even more extrem in the northic european country

[–] greenmarty 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every time there's a war somewhere, i get reminded that "humanize" are a lot like chimps. They are so clever, nice to each other, only until things goes to sh*t unexpectedly. That's when hell explodes, everything is "allowed" Faces get ripped off, fingers bitten off ect.

I still don't get why humans need wars are each period of peace. As if having too much good things got boring .

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's just game theory.

[–] Cookiesandcreamclouds 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, time to go into IT. There will always be jobs there.

[–] scottywh 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the point of science or healthcare if your neighbors comes in and kill you all ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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