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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More hard drive slots? No problem! Extra vibrations are good for hard drives probably.

[–] BloodSlut 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vibrations are movement. Hard drives have moving components. That means that vibrations help read/write speeds!

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Movement... increases speed... that sounds right!

[–] mypasswordis1234 2 points 1 year ago

So there should be a Disk Vibrator!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can hear the case vibration in that picture lol

[–] BlovedMadman 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This isn't a high rpm fan, it's enough to keep the LSI card cool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Ohh I was referring to the pic posted behind the "No problem" link in that user's comment lol

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[–] iforgotmyinstance 7 points 1 year ago

Just add hard drives until there is no play for vibration.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Improvised but at the same time cared enough to put 4 ties where the bolts would go. Approved.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A coworker of mine was an computer engineer in the early 2000s, but is now a warehouse director. She told me she helped her son build a new pc but it was having heating issues. I asked about fans and she said it only had 2 intake on the front with no exhaust. Told her a local shop that has cheaply priced good fans. She said computers have changed a lot in 20 years. I helped in about a week ago with choosing storage blocks, had no clue nvme even existed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

nvme did kinda feel like it arrived out of nowhere!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You do lose touch rather quickly. I'm a software developer, but I'm not really interested in hardware in my free time, so I honestly didn't know what exactly to make of nvme until very recently.

The first time I saw an m.2 SSD in real life was about a year ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, the first PC I built was a white box with a Pentium 4 HT, which was still a fairly new CPU at the time. It ran hot so I cut a hole in the side of the case, bolted a 120 MM fan in the hole, and covered it with a shroud that I think I must have fabricated with Aluminum facia.

It didn't look pretty but it worked. And it kept my bedroom toasty in the winter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's essentially how my first tower PC was cooled. Bought it as a complete PC and the cooling was a blower style fan that sucked cool air through vents on the side via a plastic shroud.

And it was also one of the wonderful pentium 4 space heaters with incidental compute.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 13 acronyms.

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[–] BlovedMadman 5 points 1 year ago

Gotta love a good TLA.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You can ditch the first sentence there.
Zip ties is always the solution. Period.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What'da work at New Holland or something?

Their equipment is held together by zipties.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Except if some string and paperclip is enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you a denier of the Zip?! HERETIC!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am a denier of the grammar errors.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zipties and brown for life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta give it to noctua for making brown cool

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say it was the fan that solved the overheating problem, not the zip ties.

[–] BlovedMadman 7 points 1 year ago

I tried just the fan on it's own, but gravity always left it sat at the bottem of my case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nice, I ended up just taping a fan on underneath using HVAC tape applied directly to the heatsink.

The plastic screw thing that holds the heatsink on can become brittle and break after some years. It might be worth picking up some small nylon bolts online before that happens.

Edit: or I guess zip ties would work if it comes to that....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I placed my fan over the heatsink and did an X pattern in zipties to hold it all in place

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, sadly a lot of server hardware is designed for high air-flow rack-mounted cases and doesn't deal so well with normal ventilation somewhat optimized to reduce noise. Especially PCIe ethernet cards seem to get really hot, but SATA extension cards are also problematic. Adding some better passive cooling also often helps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If I could find a internal server fan smaller then 20x20mm. I'd stick one next to my 1U CPU Cooler. But for some reason I can't find one. Needs to be smaller then 20x20 because it would sit on top of the motherboard in a closed 1U server rack frame.

[–] scutiger 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can use a larger fan and a shroud to redirect the air flow, similar to how laptops are cooled.

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[–] macrocephalic 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using consumer hardware as a server.

[–] BlovedMadman 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Recycling brackets", 1000 pcs bag.

This bag contains already used zip ties in various lengths and colours. You can reuse the items and be creative. Build modern art for your living room, a fan holding bracket for your server or a cool handle for your hot coffee cup.

[–] happy_saw 2 points 1 year ago

Tag this as NSFW!!!

[–] Theoriginalthon 2 points 1 year ago

I did this without the zip ties, kind of wedge it between the motherboard and the power cables.

[–] SiblingNoah 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just screwed a tiny Noctua right into the heatsink of my LSI. Worked great.

[–] SiblingNoah 1 points 1 year ago

(The screw holes lined up with the gaps)

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