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edit: Emphasis on "but do nothing". I suggest civil disobedience.

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[–] Ensign_Crab 133 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The picture of people "doing nothing in real life" is of protesters who are out doing something in real life.

[–] rockSlayer 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people are of the mind that anything less than firebombing an oil refinery is not taking action. We need both people firebombing oil infrastructure, AND people protesting in the streets

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I suggest they do not firebomb the people protesting.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, firebombing oil refineries will reduce the supply of fossil fuels, driving up the price and profits for the oil companies

GG!

[–] rockSlayer 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the "you'll hurt regular civilians, best not to do anything" approach

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn't say that. Better to do something that they won't benefit from like reduce demand.

They'll also be fully insured against sabotage so will get to replace old infrastructure with even more efficient ways to extract it.

[–] rockSlayer 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way to reduce demand would be to have walkable cities that prioritizes alternative modes of travel, and to dismantle the military industrial complex. Neither are very feasible in the amount of time we have, and EVs are not a solution to climate change.

I'm reminded of this passage in the Letter from Birmingham Jail:

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The way to reduce demand is for renewable energy to be cheaper, which it already is

https://www.energymonitor.ai/sectors/power/weekly-data-global-power-sector-saved-521bn-in-2022-renewables-competitiveness/

Marches and sit-ins are not effective

[–] rockSlayer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We simply cannot capitalism our way out of a problem we capitalism'd ourselves into

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Socialism uses capitalism, it's the only game in town

What's your alternative? Bearing in mind we don't have the luxury of time

[–] Zehzin 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Boy do I have a window maker to tell you about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, the meme does not literally have a picture of a group of people at their computers. The picture is metaphorical.

The top image is of the Occupy Wallstreet protests. Rich fucks on the balcony were there drinking champaign, taking pictures, and laughing.

[–] Coreidan 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Rich fucks on the balcony were there drinking champaign, taking pictures, and laughing.

Because they were at a wedding. People drink champagne at weddings.

I totally get where you’re trying to come from but that pic ain’t it. At least understand the context first otherwise people won’t take you seriously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were taking pictures of the protest and laughing. I think what was happening was pretty self apparent.

Also this :https://www.truthorfiction.com/wall-streeters-looking-down-on-occupy-wall-street-gamestop/

[–] Coreidan 0 points 1 year ago

You’re being indoctrinated. It’s literally a picture taken out of context used to get people like you charged up.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Boy howdy do i love all of these memes telling us how rich people aren't scared of folks complaining on the internet. The internet and its abilty to unite the Working Class quite literally has Billionaires quaking in their boots which is why Capitalism is so quickly evolving into out right fascism today. These memes complaining about people complaining might as well be made by Elon Musk or a Landlord, cause they are so clearly trying to act like they arent bothered, all while the rising tide of class consciousness is threatening the status quo that allows them to rob the everyman, in order to aquire vast ammounts of wealth that most of us cant even comprehend. Memes are the new pamphlets and this era of Capitalism is going to end.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Welp, the past 10 years of my internet usage make alot more sense, and I now understand why so many leftist spaces on reddit were just "off" and not actually advocating for anything other than "viva revolution" .... holy shit so much makes sense now...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I now understand why so many leftist spaces on reddit were just "off" and not actually advocating for anything other than "viva revolution"

Sounds like you surrounded yourself with LARPers, the leftist spaces I've been in actually have ideas

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was sadly the case in alot of the reddit spaces that I originally thought were intellectually honest places to discuss leftist theory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, and what changed your mind on that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would imagine it was leaving "Plato's cave" and coming here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry ... are you calling all people that are online and left of your politics government shills ?

So you are a typical right wing conspiracy theorists, then ?

You comments and posts make so much more sense now that I know that for sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lmao never said that you little yahoo you. It only takes one or two shills to derail a whole community, especially if they moderate it and make arbitrary rules. Calling that out is far from a typical right wing conspiracy. Its hilarious the assumptions and leaps your comments make.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don’t, but they will. We’ll keep talking until something happens and the longer it takes the worse it’s gonna get. All the years that people have been “complaining” I have never seen so many mentions of guillotines as I have this year. Either the politicians start working for the people or rich folk stop ruining everything. Otherwise we are all going to have a big problem on our hands.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not really a big problem, there's a very small minority of rich people. We can sort out the problem in less than a week.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MrVilliam 2 points 1 year ago

Because their private security force (the police) protect them. The pressure on the police over the past few years hasn't caused a shortage in cops, but that's because signing bonuses and pay have gone up. Which would be great, except they're paid for by our taxes, and the rich and powerful keep raising the police budgets despite loud calls from the masses to reduce them. And you can tell that this would be helpful to us because the corporate-owned media outlets quickly and strongly shit all over the "defund the police" movement as being something that would ruin the country.

[–] cmbabul 11 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard general strike talk in real life a few times this year. That’s never happened in my experience as an adult

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Viva la revolución

[–] steakmeout 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah fuck OP. They're just here to sow discord.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

When stuff starts happening:

"Whoah, where is all this coming from? Let's sit down at the table and discuss.

Hey hey, wait, wait! We're willing to compromise now! Wait!"

[–] girltwink 10 points 1 year ago

They most certainly do care. They've been trying to solve this problem since before occupy. The playbook back then was to plant people to give everyone second hand embarrassment and discredit movements, and it largely hasn't changed. Billionaires spend a lot of time thinking about the guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Does something.

:O not like that!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Why would they? If they don't have to follow law or listen to the government, why would they listen to the masses?

[–] _number8_ 4 points 1 year ago

well they care enough to design things such that the best we can realistically do is complain online

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago