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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.

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[–] WhiteBreadBuddha 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm feeling pretty good about Lemmy, honestly. I wasn't sure how I was going to fill my downtime, but this and mastodon may just pan out for me

[–] Heliumania 40 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It’s still hard to transition ! Especially with a lack of good apps on mobile (at least iOS). It’s only the beginning

PS : It’s my first comment on Lemmy (yay!)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of former Digg users felt the same way when they transitioned to reddit back in the day. It was a new and scary ecosystem, but it quickly became natural to use.

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[–] Dabadoo 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.

And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.

If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.

Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didn’t interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, I’m very apt to dive into any conversation.

I’m tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.

[–] southbayrideshare 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.

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[–] ilikedatsyuk 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For sure, but what makes Reddit special are the users, the content, and the discussions. The admins add no value.

We can recreate the communities in a distributed and federated way so that we never find ourselves in the same situation again.

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[–] dougg3 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This reminds me so much of the mass digg exodus of 2010. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.

[–] Ghostalmedia 34 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.

This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I definitely agree with this. I'm a very tech-savvy person and while I think I understand how it all works, I am confident there are plenty of people that will look at Lemmy and the fediverse and go "uhhhh...nope I guess?"

That's unfortunate.

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[–] dougg3 17 points 1 year ago

I completely agree. It was super confusing figuring out how to access communities from other servers, and I consider myself a very tech-literate person. The Digg -> reddit transition didn't require understanding a whole new paradigm when signing up.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Weeeeeeellllllll, there are a lot of former Reddit users here so you won't miss too much, I think!

Reddit's not what it once was, and won't be ever again if they continue towards IPO even if they walk back some or all of the proposed changes. I might visit occasionally to check up on things, but by-and-large I'm done with it.

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[–] TheDemonBuer 40 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.

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[–] HexesofVexes 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.

Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).

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[–] rarkgrames 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.

I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.

I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.

What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.

I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.

[–] PsychoticBananaSplit 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Narwahl Bacons at Midnight

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[–] dear_faye 37 points 1 year ago

I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.

[–] Evil 37 points 1 year ago

I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform

[–] godless 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.

[–] guyman 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if they reneged on everything, I still wouldn't go back. The problem with Reddit at this point is the quality of its users. It's next to impossible to find any kind of legitimate discussion because everything is buried under reddit-comedy and virtue signaling. Most of the major subreddits have just become political tools for their mods. It scares me thinking how curated the posts are there.

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[–] zacher_glachl 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I'd love more time to ease into the transition and let Lemmy grow more naturally. So if they did that 180 I'd probably still visit Lemmy first each day, then switch to Reddit once I ran out of new posts.

Hopefully after a few months all my favorite things from reddit would get ported over

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[–] spfhaar 34 points 1 year ago

Honestly better this way, the fediverse is much more resilient and future-proof than a site maintained by a group of people with the aim of making money and deciding the fate of their service, and I doubt that reddit becomes opensource and implements activityPub soon.

[–] guyman 34 points 1 year ago

You're using it.

[–] HybridSarcasm 29 points 1 year ago

Fuck u/spez

[–] hotdog 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad to see genuine and honest posts. Seems to be a lack of robots (for the time being).

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[–] smokinjoe 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.

Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.

I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.

The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.

But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm glad to be a part of something new. Still confused a little bit that's part of the excitement lol

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[–] Lunar 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.

I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.

Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.

Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.

[–] ClitoralElegy 25 points 1 year ago

I for one am glad to be here to make something new. Enjoy the ride!

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sad to see what's happening to reddit but excited about Lemmy

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[–] pathief 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel the same way. I love how reddit had very active communities for pretty much all my interests. Lemmy is not bad but you have to make it happen and who knows if it will happen..

[–] joshua 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel Reddit was falling anyway. It felt like it was just more and more reposts in most subreddits to me.

[–] rob_t_firefly 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The karma-farming bot reposts have been getting particularly out of hand over there for a long while.

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[–] Bretzel 23 points 1 year ago

OP didn't realized he was using an alternative. Bye Reddit

[–] scp_1404 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It is kind of exciting to be involved in something like what must have happened when digg died and reddit started up. Are we going to get cake days here?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Reddit's demise.

[–] FalconTheBerd 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Let’s just hope the blackout works, spez sucks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Blackout needs to be longer than 1-2 days to really be effective. Fuck /u/spez.

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[–] Astrealix 22 points 1 year ago

This is just the evolution of forums, ngl. We've moved from dislocated hobby groups to a consolidated place where anyone can find the forum they need, to realising the problem with pure consolidation.

[–] mrlglim 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my life would be substantially better if i never joined reddit in the first place

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[–] xaon_rider92 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah it's sad to see how reddit has fallen, but oh well. You either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the villain.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.

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[–] cyps 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ive been on reddit since the beginning. Watched it grow and change. These things are always bittersweet but honestly I never thought it would last this long.

My internet history is litered with relics. All the way back to the phpbb web forums, irc servers, aim/aol chatrooms, and the BBSs before them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I've been trying to encourage people and the communities I care about on Reddit to bridge to another social network for a decade. I am so, so happy it is finally happening.

[–] mesamunefire 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems to be working for me. Fediverse apps don't need to nessesarily be popular with the general public in order to be useful to us in nichie communities.

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