It's going to dip again when third party apps are shut off. Personally I'm still browsing Reddit to check in on the drama on /r/ModCoord
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Yeah exactly this. Most of the subs I used to be active in are still restricted or just meme subs now. I'm checking in to watch the drama until I can't use RIF anymore, but it's all lurking for me now and I just don't have any interest in engaging there anymore.
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dunno, but third party usage were never that high IIRC. that's why them targeting third party apps is a weird decision
It’s not weird at all. The traffic is low so they don’t give a shit and by killing them third party apps they avoid questions from investors about loopholes in their ad feeding platform. Reddit wants to go public now so they have to be big boys, and we all know what it means under ripe capitalism. No mission, only revenue
by killing them third party apps they avoid questions from investors about loopholes in their ad feeding platform
No mission, only revenue... and smoke and mirrors? A bait-and-switch to fool investors?
Because if third-party app usage really is that low, and Reddit is losing money regardless, you're describing putting a Band-aid on a hemorrhage and declaring the patient cured.
Are investors really that stupid? Just another meaningless ritualistic sacrifice at the altar of investment capitalism? "Show them that you're doing something. Just do something, make a splash, whatever it is, I don't care. Act like you're REALLY busy. Enough sucker investors won't look into the numbers." And how is this any different from incompetent russian generals invading Ukraine? They look to me like mirror images of each other.
Then again, there's greed, the impulse for total control, biting off more than you can chew then not being able to back down because of pride and arrogance, emotional incompetence, and damn the consequences, both short and long term, the collateral damage. And here the Ukraine analogy is once again wafting across my mind.
EDIT: After all, so many of these corporate assholes - Walmart, Home Depot, Nestlé, and yes, Twitter and Reddit - they DO lean right wing.
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I always said, redditors are good at complaining, but do nothing else.
r/workreform is one of the most popular subs, yet reddit's userbase can't even protest online properly.
Your work reform is never coming, plebbit. just saying.
Sadly, I think this is widely true about people in general. Actually commiting to change is so much harder than expressing dissatisfaction with your current state.
except this is not "I gotta threaten to quit my job if it doesn't improve", "stop eating meat", or "switch to a bicycle instead of a car".
This is a "I gotta open a different app and start lurking there daily and occasionally post".
Switching to lemmy took me an hour. How difficult is this protest, really?
I mean, how much hope is there for humanity with that level of indifference/apathy.
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I went on Reddit yesterday for the first time since the strike, whilst trying to debug a code issue. Almost every post from years old questions had the replies deleted by the users. I think the real damage will be the deletion of content and the change in tone from redditors. Most useful discourse will be gone and it will turn into a place only for arguing, memes and shit posting. Advertisers aren't going to want to pay to advertise on low quality content like that.
I truly feel most of the 3rd party app users were the more level headed folks in the userbse. For the most part we were users there since before reddit had an app when good discourse took place. We're taking that discourse with us and I anticipate further deterioration of reddit. More akin to Facebook style toxicity and echo chambering. I'm sad to see it because overall that's a net loss for humanity/the internet. But I like it here.
Punishing future searchers is what has me conflicted about wiping everything. I have an 11 year account. I have no idea how many times my troubleshooting was correct for various issues or howany times my anecdotal incidents could match for someone else.
xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png
Rollover: "All long threads should have a globally editable post stickied to the top saying" DEAR FUTURE USERS, here's what we've learned so far"
Since I didn't figure out image embedding, here's the regular link https://xkcd.com/979/
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True, plenty of the useful posts, advice, opinions will be lost. Unfortunately i don't think Reddit will suffer much for it, eventually spez will get his IPO, and possibly have moderators replaced by paid staff and/or bots. Life will go on there almost certainly for the worse. Social media and the monetization of people win again. Edit: i deleted my posts, comments, and account there. Same as Facebook and Twitter.
Welp they are getting way less traffic from me. All I do is occasionally log on and see which subs are creatively protesting now 😆
I'm more curious about how the numbers will look after they nix 3rd party apps. There's bound to be a dip after June 30.
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Let the sheep stay, while we enjoy some fresh air in the fediverse.
I totally believe this. Exactly zero of the 11K subscribers of the sub I mod have followed me over to the fediverse--despite a third of them 'supporting' the idea of keeping the sub dark.
Still deciding if I should just be an 'absentee mod' (not post anything personally, but keep things reasonably orderly) or let someone else mod it and move on. I just cant, in good conscience, 'return to normal'.
Reddit doesn't support you, your fellow users don't support you. Do right by yourself and stop giving free effort for no benefit.
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I've cut out Reddit, if lemmy dies my social media use dies with it.
I'll be here contributing to the community as long as everyone else is.
I continued to look reddit for reasons, but honestly the feed is deteriorating fast, maybe traffic is back, people posting content, not so much, engagement? Even less, it's like looking to a old mediocre Google News feed.
Fine with me, found a good substitution here after 11 years of reddit
Engagement is up because an algorithm optimized it.
The algorithm does not care if that engagement is negative or toxic.
Yeah, I at least personally used to be a bit of a power user and have just stopped posting/upvoting/downvoting altogether, and I'm not even a mod.
Just because people show up does not mean people are engaged.
Once Apollo is inactive, so am I.
I’ve been here 50% or more. Won’t be hard, lol. Idiots
Maybe it's the novelty here or something but I'm really enjoying Lemmy overall. Agreed switching over completely won't be difficult in the slightest
There’s less comments, but also no low-effort jokes at the top for karma.
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From what I have seen, traffic is down 9-10% now, which is quite significant.
https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/reddit-blackout/
Also the world has found out there are alternatives, so if mobile apps stop working or cost money by July, we may see a similar drop again.
What happens after that is hard to say. IMO reddit has steadily deteriorated compared to what it was 15 years ago. I miss the old reddit, what reddit is today I won't miss.
Reddit will probably survive, and that may be for the best for Lemmy too. As long as Lemmy stays sustainable, I think we are better off without most of the people who choose to stay with reddit. Because those are likely to also be the people who don't really care about values.
It depends on what percentage of power users/content creators/OPs are in that 10%. Most online communities have a pretty lopsided composition of posters vs. lurkers. If all posters move, the community will be eaten from the inside-out by repost bots.
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...normal or "hey, it's all good because we said so"?
Obviously if PC Mag says it it must be true. /S
It was nice when it lasted. July 1st will be a change most likely.
Returns to normal.... minus me, HA TAKE THAT SPEZ!
I was an active member of reddit for over a decade. That ended during the blackout and I refuse to go back. I have blocked reddit at the router level to ensure they see no traffic from my network
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It isn't the 1st of July yet...
I dont care if it doesn't change. As long as this just slowly grows to a nice plateau ill be satisfied.
When the quality of content drops on reddit , people will automatically move to Lemmy.
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I’ve found my alternative. But the last few days and those going forward I’ve went back to using the shit out of Apollo like I used to because I know it’s about to die. Reddit is going to die on July 1.
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Too early to judge. Wait a month at least
I think when 3rd party app support drops on the 1st we'll see what to expect in the days to follow.
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