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  • The Philosophy of Social Ecology by Murray Bookchin.
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They do have a profit insentive though. It's just not a monetary one

[–] DarkSpectrum 41 points 1 year ago

This is correct, phosphorus and nitrogen is exchanged for carbohydrates. Mutually beneficial symbiosis.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m all about enlightened self-interest.

Like, altruism is rad and all, but some people are only ever going to be helpful if they stand to gain something, and it’s best we remind them of what they stand to gain at every opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Altruism is not without reward, even if it seems like it is. No one acts selflessly for no reason, they do so because they are rewarded by their body with dopamine and other "reward" hormones - i.e. because it feels good to do so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ok Corduroy Jackson Jackson

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Dopamine is what drives humans.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is often called externalities. I don't mind this argument, after all, leftism is based on Economics. Marx was an economist. And modern economics sweeps over this to propogandize students about adam smith and grt them to argue over modrrn neoliberal issues. However, we all stand to gain the farther left we go - the only of those who don't are the owner class who squeezes us dry.

[–] Zoboomafoo 2 points 1 year ago

Marx was an economist like Freud was a psychologist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

some people are only ever going to be helpful if they stand to gain something,

Only if you believe the lies capitalism created and encourages in to fruition in order to exist and survive:
https://theconversation.com/humans-arent-inherently-selfish-were-actually-hardwired-to-work-together-144145

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Benefit ≠ profit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free thinker alert! Arrest these shrooms immediately!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Are there any shrooms in the audience tonight? Put them up against the wall!

[–] beizhia 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just read The Dispossessed last month. It's a good one for sure 👍

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I read it a few months back and it is one of the best books I've ever read

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yayayayayayayayayayy

[–] damnfinecoffee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bookchin was kinda a butthead, but he was a smart butthead, and his books change my life every time I read one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have the books on pdf or a link to a free access ?