this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2023
460 points (98.3% liked)

News

23422 readers
4912 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Amateur mushroom pickers have been urged to avoid foraging books sold on Amazon that appear to have been written by artificial intelligence chatbots.

Amazon has become a marketplace for AI-produced tomes that are being passed off as having been written by humans, with travel books among the popular categories for fake work.

Now a number of books have appeared on the online retailer’s site offering guides to wild mushroom foraging that also seem to be written by chatbots. The titles include “Wild Mushroom Cookbook: form [sic] forest to gourmet plate, a complete guide to wild mushroom cookery” and “The Supreme Mushrooms Books Field Guide of the South-West”.

all 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] kescusay 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone's going to die following one of these books. If the people who created them can be identified, there should be harsh criminal penalties for doing it.

[–] Jumper775 18 points 1 year ago

If they are selling it on Amazon Amazon can totally figure out who they are. If someone does following it and charges are pressed they will be found.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be harsh criminal penalties for Amazon as well.

[–] Kbobabob -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would be a fine that could be paid with about an hour's worth of income.

Edit: Downvoting because you don't like the truth?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a big believer in changing laws so that when a company commits a serious offense, the individuals responsible end up serving time in prison. Fines are bullshit. If you're gonna wish for things that aren't gonna happen anyway, you may as well dream big.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

There should already be imo. Reckless endangerment or some shit.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

That is crazy dangerous. There are some really deadly mushrooms out there. People need to go to prison for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Everyone worried Skynet would create killer robots but instead they are writing shitty books. A kills a kill I guess.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The way publishing works, it is easy for Amazon to just check who is responsible for those books. Odd that they are not, I thought the US was a more litigious place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats honestly not as true as some would have you believe. I think it stems from a case where a woman got third degree burns on her legs when a cup of mcdonalds coffee from a drive thru spilled. the company called the case supurflous, and used its vast megaphone to paint the woman as the one who was at fault. it worked. as a pre-teen I recall other kids talking with assurity about how the woman who spilled her coffee was absuing the system- coffee is hot! americans will sue over anything! The woman needed skin grafts and settled for 20k. ABC news called it "the poster child of frivilous lawsuits".

I moved to Ireland in 2007. Insurance here is shockingly high- if you get in a car accident, the chances people put in "a claim" are HIGH. The bass player of a band I was in here had a €3,500 bass and didn't work at age 29. He tripped on a paving stone while running downhill on a sidewalk/footpath and sued the farmer who lived next to it. The house I'm living in now has an extention that the previous owner was able to put on with money from "her claim". Not sure what happened, but she worked for an insurance company. She's living on an island and "is an artist" now. My friend visiting from the US backed into a car and dented the door panel. When she went to talk to the car's owner's, the wife of the family went out and got into the car and said she was in it when they hit the car and her neck hurt and needed to go to the hospital. There were 7 of us there, inculding the irish home owners of the house we were staying in and the cop believed us over her.

These are anticdotal stories from my personal experience here in Ireland. There used to be an Oktoberfest event down on the water on the docklands, it was nice. I asked one of the organizers a year or so ago why they stopped and they said "they were losing money because of the insurance premiums". My car insurance here first year was €1600 annually, when it was $185 annually in the US (2006 or so).

I lived in the US a lot longer than I've lived here, and I never knew anyone who sued anyone else there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To back up your point but also clarify, the woman with the McDonald's coffee initially offered to settled for 20k, but McDonald's wouldn't offer more than $800. The jury awarded her $3mil. It was later reduced but then settled confidentially. McDonald's did (as you point out) produce a major smear campaign against her and completely downplayed her injuries. iirc, her the injuries included third degree burns, fusion of labia to her thigh, and multiple skin grafts. The more you learn about it, the worse it gets. We were all brainwashed into thinking it was poster child for frivolous lawsuits. https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, thanks for that. Especially having me thinking about labia being fused to the thigh first thing in the morning. Hello, sunday!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Rich people have better lawyers, though.

[–] inclementimmigrant 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People who are foraging the woods for mushrooms aren't exactly the same who can afford high prices lawyers.

[–] sploosh 8 points 1 year ago

Personal injury lawyers will work on commission for things like this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've ran into a few issues with AI written articles.

One for Assassins Creed Odessey on how to get wood quickly. It listed 5 methods and only 2 of them were in the game.

Another with articles on Baldurs Gate 3 talking about upgrading your equipment. I beat the game twice in 20 hours and never came across the workbench mentioned in the articles. It was at that time the articles were clearly parroting one another with false data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twice in 20 hours? Are you sure you didn't just miss it?

[–] Sharpie 1 points 1 year ago

Twice in 20 hours sounds a lot like this person hasn’t played the game at all… maybe that comment was written by AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, at least those issues don't kill people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohhhh shit, this explains that Russian rocket scientist!

[–] TokenBoomer -1 points 1 year ago

He shoots, he scores!

[–] NightAuthor 8 points 1 year ago

Article starts off with “scores 100% on AI detection tests” wtf. They should do a little research on that statement. Even OpenAI gave up trying to detect that shit. It’s not possible. The machines are mimicking human speech. And doing better than many actual human authors. You can’t detect that shit.

[–] shortdorkyasian 5 points 1 year ago

These Skynet plots to wiping out the human race are getting really convoluted as they keep making Terminator sequels/prequels. I guess they're going for the long game by going after the mushroom foragers first.

[–] rez_doggie 1 points 1 year ago

Mmm boletes

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

How can anyone be stupid enough to start picking musrooms based on what a book says? This is a skill that should be taught by an experienced person.