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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Call me crazy, but I don’t think corporations should be in the business of scanning everyone’s private data on behalf of “the authorities”.

Too many ways it can go very wrong.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Children have been exploited for much longer than there has been photography, much less iPhones.

[–] Astroturfed 7 points 1 year ago

Also, I feel like there's probably not much of that on apples servers.... Like wouldn't that mind if cloud network be the last place you'd want to put illegal pictures? If I was trying to hide some felony pics or data I wouldn't be trusting a large corporations cloud services.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

This title is misleading click bait for an article advocating for intrusive data scanning, which by the way, cannot be completely automated.

Here's a snippet of the iCloud TOS which specifically forbids CSA on iCloud.

You agree that you will NOT use the Service to:

a. upload, download, post, email, transmit, store, share, import or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harassing, threatening, harmful, tortious, defamatory, libelous, abusive, violent, obscene, vulgar, invasive of another’s privacy....

Further down, the same TOS specifically calls out that such content may be identified or removed by Apple

Again, not defending Apple, but I'd rather not have them or an army of underpaid contractors search through people's pictures as a type of corporate law enforcement, because "think of the children". This is a systemic problem which can be addressed without invading EVERYONE's privacy

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remove locks from all your houses. Locks allow child abuse to go on without being reported.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Why stop there? Walls allow kids to be hurt too. Why not mandate that every human, at their own expense, provides 100% video coverage of their property at all times, on penalty of automatic child endangerment charges.

And obviously monitoring that isn't free, so we'll send you the bill shortly.

[–] Zummy 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, people don’t want this. To be clear, I AM NOT saying that people don’t want the end to CSAM. I would say most people want that. What I am saying is that people don’t want someone to spy on your data to stop it. Spying on everyone to catch the few sickos out their is not cool. Apple protects privacy, and that’s what I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apple "protects privacy"***************

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Illegal drugs are transported on the interstate. The department of transportation should be held accountable for not searching every vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heat Initiative is launching a multi-million dollar campaign in which it presses Apple on this issue.

I can’t help but wonder which generous benefactors are providing Heat these multi-millions of dollars in order to pressure apple into compromising privacy?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are a few million dollars productive against a trillion dollar company?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s not a trillion dollar company they’re looking to spend a few million dollars against, just their stance on your privacy.

[–] Nogami 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

child safety advocacy group Heat Initiative wants corrupt governments to be able to scan your personal device for: evidence of sexual orientation, firearms ownership, anti-government speech, political affiliation, messages from any sort of sexual affair, oh yes, and CSAM.

Please think of the children! lol.

[–] AwesomeSteve 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a great opportunity to identify the group of people and organization that advocate for the government to scan your private data, a violation to your privacy and rights.

It is very obvious they have very limited wisdom or are acting solely to serve a certain party interest i.e, the authority that wants your data without any hassle.

Another possibility is they are a complete retarded. For anyone that interested,

  • Christian Brothers Investment
  • Degroof Petercam, a Belgian investment firm

Christian Brothers Investment Services describes itself as a “Catholic, socially responsible investment management firm.” The proposal is believed to play a role in Heat Initiative’s advertising campaign as well. Simultaneously, the New York Times is also now reporting that Degroof Petercam, a Belgian investment firm, will also back the resolution.

Maybe it is time to research into these two entities.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If that is true provide the evidence to the FBI and they'll arrest People. That isn't what is done because they have no evidence and breaking encryption is the real goal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Dang here we go again