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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] moistclump 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I read headlines like this I feel… tired. Just so… tired. Sigh.

[–] DougHolland 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know the feeling. Been doing what little one man can about this for a long, long time, and it's always the same story.

Long sigh... Tired, indeed.

[–] whatwhatwhatwhat 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for doing what you do. Though it may seem like thankless work, awareness if these issues is so important. It’s posters like you who helped me to come around to the police problem.

[–] DougHolland 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, thanks. I appreciate that. :)

Now, back to the bad cops...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who are these judges? And how are they appointed? There are no tests or something? Or they are bribed?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably appointed by Trump and approved by a majority-Republican Senate.

[–] bassomitron 4 points 1 year ago

Pretty much. Iowa governor Kim Reynolds has also essentially turned Iowa into a non-democratic state over the last several years. She has virtually absolute control. Everyone's been hyper focused on DeSantis while super villains like her have been enacting insane policies and laws with little national coverage

Seriously, look up how she's made every single committee and appointments under her direct control, among other things. There are literally no longer any checks and balances to her bullshit and her Republican constituents have applauded it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That sucks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The judge didn't rule that I can't call it a murder.

[–] PeckerBrown 3 points 1 year ago