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[–] alphacyberranger 108 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should be fined for generating a lot of unnecessary e-waste as well.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem with fining incredibly rich corporations, is they either laugh it off, or just pass that "cost" onto the consumers.

I suppose the options are things like:

a) International regulation against "disabling parts of a product without good reason". Products simply cannot be sold legally

b) Enforced warning signs on packets (like cigarette packaging) - each HP printer box or online advert must display a warning sign covering 60% of all images stating "We are a predatory company and will disable your products for no good reason".

If those don't work, then death penalty for top 3 highest ranking of the company and top 3 highest paid of the company, per violation, per year.

[–] Burn_The_Right 18 points 1 year ago

I think the death penalty option is the most reasonable and effective one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Eventually "passing the cost on to consumers" increases the price so much that the deceptive printers cost more than legitimate ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] WilliamTheWicked 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This and almost every other tech subscription style "service" are one of the most maddening things to come out of the tech sector. The need for profit is absolutely out of control.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I'm so tired of everything becoming an ongoing subscription. In the end the most powerful vote we all have is our wallets.

It's a pretty easy thing to just immediately stop buying from companies that pull this shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

The way that these companies use intellectual property law to secure for themselves a property right to something that someone else purchased from them ought to be highly illegal.

I believe there was a supreme Court case I better garage door opener, and the company that made the garage doors was trying to sue because they didn't want anyone using anything but their garage door opener. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that the supreme Court in that case explicitly stated that the purpose of the dmca is not to provide companies with a property right to something that people have already purchased.

Technology companies just went ahead and did it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a cheap HP printer/scanner. It works well enough it's not in the garbage but this and their "I must be signed in" to print bullshit have ensured I won't buy another HP printer when I either get fed up or it dies.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

They sell the printers at a loss because they then sell the ink cartridges with so little ink in them that some of the padding is still dry.

[–] Hazdaz 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please let the judge be an HP printer owner! If so, he'll completely understand this bullshit.

[–] valkyre09 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s interesting, in a case like this the chances of the judge owning an HP printer are pretty high.

Would they still be allowed to rule on the case?

[–] Hazdaz 10 points 1 year ago

With something ubiquitous I don't think there is a choice.

Think of if the case involved the iPhone or Android. You literally couldn't find someone that didn't own at least one of those.

[–] zaph 2 points 1 year ago

Would they still be allowed to rule on the case?

Judges recuse themselves AFAIK. An appeals court might override and say a judge shouldn't have been on it but that's pretty rare. So as long as the judges feels they can remain impartial they'll be able to preside.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Sheesh, fuck HP.

Got a brand new printer from them a few years back. I think it has printed maybe 3 things. Nope. doesn't print anymore. Doesn't scan anymore.

Useless space for a landfill.

Don't ever buy HP printers......

[–] oohgodyeah 4 points 1 year ago

I switched to Brother years ago for both my personal and small business client recommendations and have never looked back.