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The United States has returned more than 250 ancient artifacts to Italy after police discovered that they had been stolen.

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[–] comrade19 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

BBC trying to ignore the elephant in the room with all of their stolen artefacts

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Q: Why are the pyramids in Egypt?

A: Because they were too heavy to move to England

[–] kirua 0 points 1 year ago

Recycling material is old

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Italy wouldn’t want to start that conversation - the city of Rome has more Egyptian obelisks than Egypt.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The house I'm living in in Germany is built on top of a Roman pottery district. I hope they don't want that one back.

[–] Humanius 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Difference is that those Egyptian obelisks were not built in modern day Italy by the Egyptians, but the Roman pottery district was built in modern day Germany by the Romans

A lot of the obelisks in European cities were stolen from Egypt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to tune your irony detectors

[–] Humanius 4 points 1 year ago

Have you ever heard of Poe's law?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The art unit of Italy's police force found the items had been looted and sold to US museums and private collectors in the 1990s.

Kind of different, a lot of the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This seems like an excellent time to recommend an excellent podcast: Stuff The British Stole

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a difference between artefact and artifact? Or is it just another weird thing in the english language?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

British vs. American spelling, that's all.

[–] DontTreadOnBigfoot 7 points 1 year ago
[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great. You've done the first world nation justice. Now do your own indigenous nations justice and return all of their stolen artifacts.

[–] JulianRR 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anything won by military action is legitimately owned. Note all of human history

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow.

[–] JulianRR 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history.

Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it.

It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history.

So there's no issues with slavery, right?

How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You misspelled land and culture.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 year ago

I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to.