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TO THE ADMINS: Read this thread and give me one good reason why federating with toxic, propaganda spreading tankie loons is a good idea.

No one wants those fucks, or the alt right dipshits for that matter, around, and they're spreading blatant lies, yet I see they are here. Does lemm.ee only care about boosting its numbers and is willing to sink to new lows to do it, I wonder? 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

For the time being, I have no plans to change our federation policy. I realize this is not what you want to hear, and I'm sorry to disappoint you. It's just not a goal for lemm.ee to curate external instances for now.

There are probably many instances out there that have horrible content (content which would get users banned if they posted it on lemm.ee), but vetting instances and maintaining a defederation list is a big effort, and I believe this effort is much better spent elsewhere.

I've stated this in many other similar threads, but let me also reiterate here: the above should not be taken to mean that lemm.ee is some bastion of free speech absolutism. Users or communities breaking rules on lemm.ee are dealt with. Also, we do reserve the right to defederate any instance which starts causing problems for lemm.ee on a bigger scale (so in cases where banning individual users is not effective).

I realize this is a topic where it's impossible to make everybody happy, because each person has their own view on what should be federated or defederated. At the end of the day, for anything that's not illegal or directly hurting lemm.ee, I believe it's best to leave these decisions up to users - you can make your own choices with which users and communities you block, and I'm certain that soon you'll have the tools built in to Lemmy itself to make the same decision on an instance level as well. And if that doesn't work for you, then there's always the possibility of joining a different instance with a different approach to federation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for this attitude. Lets me know I’m on the right instance. I want to be able to choose who I block, and I don’t want someone else choosing that for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I second. Please do the instance a favor and disconnect from them. They are bad faith actors here to do nothing but cause chaos. If I could block them on my own, I would have done it day one.

[–] Astroturfed 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the apps allow you to block communities or entire instances. I've been using connect, it's free and let's you block. Most of the reason I downloaded it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Have you considered hosting your own instance? Its not difficult and you can control exactly who you federate with.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t think a worldwide general-purpose instance should be removing content, users, or instances based on an opinion of the content. That’s censorship by definition.

Removing content based on an opinion is very different than removing users or instances that are manipulating Lemmy votes/accounts or expressing extreme targeted hate towards an individual.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

u can always filter instances using connect or sync as u please: there is no need to ask ur admin for defederation ( it is kinda extreme really )

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've personally found the hexbear locals to be really inclusive, and pleasant to interact with. I couldn't say I agree with the totality of their political outlooks, but I've not found them particularly unreasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t even go to this school, but here’s a picture of the Tiananmen massacre. Tank man was a badass

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want to hear all viewpoints. Don't talk for me. You can block if you're against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I hate these instances too but don't want to change the instance policies. Pretty soon instance blocking should become a thing and you'll be able to block them outright.

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