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Confidently Incorrect

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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] magamus 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is the most educational.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He is so confident that he might just be a troll. If he isn't he is probably the greatest example of being confidently incorrect who I've seen posted here in a while.

[–] kmkz_ninja 6 points 1 year ago

My conspiracy is that a lot of people lived in a time where you could just browbeat people into submission over whether or not you were right, because who was going to go to the library just to prove you wrong?

But now people can learn anything at any time from the slate portal in their pocket, and I believe some people have a hard time relinquishing that control and superiority they had.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really wondered that too! Not sure how anyone could actually be this obstinate in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Might very well be a troll lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. I know people like that. They just shut down and reject everything that doesn't align with their world view. No point even arguing with them at that point, just let them live in their clown world.

[–] Buddahriffic 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can sometimes have success by asking questions and getting them to elaborate and maybe find an inconsistency or error on their own. You need to enter their reality and help them tear it down from within and be aware that they might instead just kick you out of it (so if you really want to convince someone, you'll have the most success if you can make it a pleasant experience they want to continue engaging with).

But this is a disagreement about terminology, which is purely decided by consensus or definitions, so it's less likely to have some logic that can disprove it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes, yes. But I have one guy in mind when I say this. He was a close friend 15 years ago, he was like this.

He's still like this, and he's not much of a friend anymore. There's only so much patience you can give a person before you give up and move on.

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, whether it's worth the time and emotional energy to do that is a whole other question.

[–] Cabrio 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Never underestimate the limitlessness of human belligerence.

[–] postmateDumbass 1 points 1 year ago

Determined ignorance is a force.

[–] AllYourSmurf 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But did OP ever get their question answered?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes!

Here's the original: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2508826689377424/posts/3531073097152773/

Buddy Lee Yates is still wrong and refuses to back down, lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly yes, for the most part? I'll have to check again and see

[–] jesterraiin 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd like to observe, that although funny and drawing a lot of attention, this thread is wrong.

Spiders ARE poisonous. Plenty, if nost the most of them, really. By default we simply do not consider them food, but they are eaten in some parts of our world, nevertheless.

And yes, spiders, ar least some of them are venomous.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Omg that's really interesting, I never would have guessed! Are the effects of the venom and the poison similar at all? I kinda had the intuition that venoms were generally at least kind of edible, probably just because snake venom is lol. Is it even the same chemicals between the two effects? Sorry, my mind is just blown, haha

[–] jesterraiin 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noprob, nature is weirder than we can assume.

There are many toxins and some might produce similar effects when ingested, to those that were injected into the bloodstream. Some among these are similar to alcohol poisoning, some might probably give you a drug-like bad trip, others might be fatal. What I'm trying to say is, that there are many variables involved and the result "might vary".

Rule of thumb: do not eat spiders. 😉

[–] WoolyNelson 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When cooking, remove the "head" and "butt". This gets rid of the venom sacs and other, less desirable, bits.

If a spider is venomous, it is poisonous unless prepared properly.

[–] jesterraiin 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Some spiders are poisonous, some are venomous...

[–] Delphia 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean probably, I aint eating a bunch of venomous spiders to find out which ones are poisonous.

[–] jesterraiin 2 points 1 year ago

I ate roasted spiders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if Brown Recluse spiders are poisonous, they are definitely ALSO venomous, and of the two traits it's only the venom that's ever going to be relevant right? I mean, who's eating Brown Recluse spiders?

[–] jesterraiin 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, who’s eating Brown Recluse spiders?

Hungry, extravagant, rich, insane, children...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume you are being satirical... but it does bring up the question as to which ones would actually be poisonous (to a human?) Are there any, really?

[–] jesterraiin 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not making jokes.

The question was whether spiders are venomous or poisonous and the answer is that they might be both.

Why somebody would try to eat a spider is entirely different question and I provided some answers to that too...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But are they? Which spiders are poisonous to humans? I'm not saying they aren't, but I have a gut feeling that most spider venom or anything else inside a spider potentially poisonous to a human wouldn't survive the digestive tract. I could be totally wrong though.

[–] Jilanico 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] jesterraiin 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Poisonous spiders release their toxins when they are inhaled, ingested or absorbed through the tissue or skin

People absorb spiders through their skin?!

[–] jesterraiin 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not quite, but yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urticating_hair

In addition, you may smack an insect that walks on your skin, thus smashing it to a pulp, that turns out to be toxic.

In addition, some wild tribes has been using small toxic animals, insects and alike to create liquid "juices", they then poured on the arrows and tips of spears. It's possible that even a skin-contact with such a substance may lead to unpleasant effects. I'd have to check the details, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you saying that you don't? You freak!

[–] Diprount_Tomato 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But who would be reddited enough to touch a spider?

[–] jesterraiin 2 points 1 year ago

Steve Irwin.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

TIL about this difference, in my language poison and venom translates to the same word (poison)

[–] TechLich 5 points 1 year ago

Venom is a type of poison. Poison doesn't have to be eaten. (Eg. Contact poisons exist).

Venom is just a poison that is delivered through a bite or a sting.