this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2023
59 points (86.4% liked)

Asklemmy

43989 readers
1628 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I've noticed that when meeting a foreign person, mentioning that you like a beloved artist from their country is one of the best way to create a good vibe.

Which revered artist/group (not necessarily musician) from your place should I learn about?

A few examples I'm thinking about (correct me if I'm wrong):

Country Artist
Argentina Carlos Gardel
Australia Powderfinger
Austria Mozart, Falco, Thomas Bernhard
Beligum Jacques Brel, Stromae
Brazil Raul Seixas, Zé Ramalho
Cabo Verde Cesária Évora
Canada Leonard Cohen, Céline Dion, Gordon Lightfoot
Egypt Umm Kulthum
France Daft Punk
Germany Kraftwerk, Die Ärzte, Franz Kafka
Iceland Björk
Italy Elio e le Storie Tese
Malawai Evison Matafale
Mali Salif Keita
Scotland The Proclaimers, Sean Connery
Sweden Astrid Lindgren
USA Dolly Parton

Edit: Spent my Saturday morning vibing, adding the "consensual" suggestions to the table.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Daft Punk in France. They're national icons, and even Macron likes them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

My first thought was De Funès/Bourvil, but that works too

[–] Jahmon85 16 points 1 year ago

Belgium , you can go for "Stromae" if you want to appeal to a younger public :-)

[–] sanguinepar 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Scotland - probably the best chance of a good reaction is to mention The Proclaimers (they of the 500 Miles song)

Although personally I'm not a fan! So if you're in Dunfermline, mention The Skids and you'll probably be alright :-)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

+1 for proclaimers. However I’m from Kirkcaldy (Raith fan) so it feels tough to agree on something.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm watching this thread with great interest 👀

For the US, maybe Dolly Parton?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, Taylor Swift is probably the most traditionally american top 40 artist, given her genre inspirations, but the US is probably too large to pick just one artist. I bet it'd be far more interesting to find out what each state has contributed to our national artistry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a feeling that in 20 years time more people will know who Dolly Parton was than Taylor Swift

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

By that logic, Elvis or Michael Jackson would be a better contender.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lauchs 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not wrong but kind of surprised to see him over the Tragically Hip.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 2 points 1 year ago

My husband holds a Hip marathon every Sunday. But Gordon is the true test of time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey there fellow Canadian. Glad you got in before someone mentioned Anne Murray or Justin Bieber.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I almost said Leonard Cohen but he wrote a depressing song about my name.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If I were asked to mention a Canadian musician I'd think of Celine Dion long before Justin Bieber. Hell I'd think of Woods of Ypres.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sticking to popular, mainstream rock and pop options I'd say Bernard Fanning/Powderfinger is a good representation of Australian rock that doesn't really polarise as much as the more cultural cringe options like Darryl Braithwaite, John Farnham or Jimmy Barnes. There's also Kylie Minogue who might not be everyone's cup of tea, but is unlikely to be actively disliked by most.

Midnight oil, INXS would be good picks too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Germany is big, but I think a good one that ruffles no feathers is Santiano (a sea-man shanty like band), though obviously Ramstein is bigger, but some people think that they are nazis (which they aren't, they are provocative)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Given that recent scandals and Lindemann, right wing connotations are the least of their worries.

For the uninformed: he allegedly used the backstage area as a sex dungeon, including drugs, minors, rape, etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Santiano is not universally loved. They're too close to Schlager for that. And the issue with Rammstein isn't really alleged nazism (which only came up briefly when they used Leni Riefenstahl's footage) but rather their singer's alleged backstage raping.

So far, I haven't met people who hated Herbert Grönemeyer, Marius-Müller Westernhagen, Jan Delay, Nina Hagen, die Ärzte, die fantastischen Vier or Reinhard Mey. A little more recent music that I have rarely seen associated negatively would be by Kraftklub, Peter Fox or Deichkind. None of this is particularly progressive, but it's decent stuff that is so universally liked that e.g. weddings often rely on them to get people to dance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Just realised that this isn't just about music. Those were all musicians or bands, but Germany of course has people from all trades.

To universally loved artists I'd count

  • Janosch, a children's books author. Love his work. Never met anyone who didn't.
  • Franz Kafka. Like... Depressing stories? Dunno. It's just that, despite his work being quite dark, it's just pretty damn good.
  • Peter Lustig moderated a kids' TV show, Löwenzahn. He eventually stopped due to his age and his successor does a good job, but he was just... Chef's kiss, you know?
  • Michael Ende wrote what I guess would be some of the most famous German children's books for older kids. The Neverending Story, for example. All his books are considered modern classics.
  • There are a lot of famous actresses and actors, but when it comes to being loved for their work without any attached drama, I guess Bjarne Mädel takes the cake. Tatortreiniger is brilliant and I haven't heard anything negative tied to him.
  • Armin Maiwald und Christoph Biemann spearheaded the German kids show "Die Sendung mit der Maus" and are very much loved for their work.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ich bin Schnappi, das kleine Krokodil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My personal suggestion list would be:

  • Die Ärzte
  • Peter Fox
  • Nina Hagen
[–] antim0ny 4 points 1 year ago

What about Kraftwerk. They’re so influential and iconic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Another Idea I had is The Sandmännchen (A berry young kids show that runs every day since 1959) there almost no talking so you could say that "your kids love it" or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Santiano

Interesting! I knew the French version of this song by Hugues Aufray, which happens to be the inspiration for this band's name. Although, Aufray's inspiration is the sea shanty Santianna referring to the Mexican General Antonio López de Santa Anna, which has many variations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=VQd1IOyhKS4

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Technotronic, from Belgium, had that 1989 techno anthem, Pump Up the Jam.

[–] Robdor 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chuck Tingle has some good literary art. I believe he's from the USA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Chuck Tingle is a pseudonymous author, primarily of niche gay erotica. The stories mainly take the form of monster erotica, featuring romantic and sexual encounters with dinosaurs, imaginary creatures, anthropomorphized inanimate objects, and even abstract concepts.

•̀ ͜ﻌ•́

[–] TheLobotomist 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Italy: Elio e le storie tese... They are somewhat of a "mainstream niche band"; Italians would be astonished that you know of them, you should mention the song Mio cugino (my cousin)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Really cool instrumentation !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm I love them, I really love them, but I don't think everybody likes them, especially older people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

In Argentina it must be Carlos Gardel - the most prominent exponent of Tango. You can walk around a corner in Buenos Aires on a Sunday to find a bunch of people dancing tango .. all dressed up to the nines (sorry!). It's amazing. Beautiful country and such an elegant city.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aotearoa. Suzy Cato is universally loved, but people could be suspicious about how you came to know about her.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Suzanne Noreen Cato (born 20 June 1968) is an Australian-born New Zealand children's entertainer. She is best known as the host of several New Zealand children's television programmes, most notably Suzy's World and You and Me.

Yeah, not really the kind of thing you would discover by immersing yourself in your hobby.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Australia - Powderfinger... Nice

Also, Something For Kate would be a good one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on the crowd, so here are a few options in the order of my preference:

  • The Kovenant (Not to be confused with Covenant. They're swedish and awful)
  • Dumdum Boys
  • Postgirobygget

Honorable mention: Circus Maximus. They'd be ranked on top of this list if I believed that the random norwegian you ran into had ever heard of them.

[–] agissilver 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not Kaizers Orchestra for Norway?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

[Double comment to avoid editing the other] This album (Kayah and Bregović) can be used for two countries, if you want - as the singer (Kayah) is from Poland, and the instrumental is from Goran Bregović, from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Switzerland

DJ Bobo or Patent Ochsner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only artist I would personally get excited about if someone foreign knew of them is the author Thomas Bernhard (Austria), but he was famous and infamous for hating Austrian culture and it wouldn‘t go over well with many others here I suppose.

So I posit some more widely liked people: Mozart, Falco or Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Falco :
Rollerblading in jeans while wearing sunglasses at night and also rapping in two languages and still not being caught by the polizei

Yes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When I spent a little time in Malawi, people always loved it if you recognised Evison Matafale's music.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I usually have a hard time answering questions like this. For me, art is art; I don't really care if the artist in question pays or paid taxes to the same government as I do.

That said, I guess that either Zé Ramalho or Raul Seixas would be good bets. Other better known artists are a bit more divisive, or stuff that you'd only hear if you're into a specific style (often regional).

Another possibility would be literature, more specifically Machado de Assis. Because even people who hate him (due to his pedantic writing style - the guy is from late 1800s, but harder to parse than Shakespeare) usually admit that he's good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=nL_QNpNOssI

https://piped.video/watch?v=zlAXMIy81UY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually have a hard time answering questions like this. For me, art is art; I don’t really care if the artist in question pays or paid taxes to the same government as I do.

I understand what you mean, but my question is about which artist you think your compatriots would be happy to hear about on average to show them that you have some interest in their culture.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›