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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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She said she was doing laundry at a laundromat near the Save A Lot with her father, Joseph Lee, when his arms and legs began to cramp up from an infection. He walked a couple of doors down into the Save A Lot grocery store to get some bananas because potassium would help relieve the cramping, she said.

She said he told her that he picked up four bananas, one of which he ate on the way to the register, and that he told the cashier that he needed to pay for four bananas even though she scanned only three. Anjelica Lee said her father told her he was followed closely while he was shopping by a white female employee, who, she said, accused him of stealing the banana he ate.

He told the woman that he had not stolen anything and that he had paid for four bananas, but she followed him outside and continued to falsely accuse him of stealing, Anjelica Lee said her father told her. When she noticed the commotion, she said, she confronted the woman.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I remember hearing about this when it happened. Before I read the article I thought it was another instance of the same thing! Truly awful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I wanted to make a Monty Python or a "banana on the wall" joke, but this just too sickening

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Goddamn these fucking people. Okay you fucking shit for guts who think you might be a hero but may just be a motherfucking cunt Karen: ask yourself when you want to be a bitch - is it ok if gestapo break this fucking person's body or kill them? Because that's the likelihood you're fucking manifesting every single time. Scared stupid counts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Dont give Karen a gun

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck, for a damn banana for which he paid.

[–] T00l_shed 16 points 20 hours ago

Have you considered he's black though?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

My children have eaten fruit while we shop. No one beat them to a pulp over it. This is despicable

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Were they brownish though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Ding ding ding

[–] SinningStromgald 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Eight cops for a lady with a metal bat and an old man that "stole a banana"? Seems a bit much for that kind of call.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

But you've got to understand: he's black!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

I’m sure they feared for their lives

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to need a complete criminal background on both them before I can decide if I need to find some other excuse for why the cops did nothing wrong here.

[–] LowtierComputer 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully an ugly picture surfaces that helps you!

[–] T00l_shed 7 points 20 hours ago

"The black man once did a drug, therefore I will rationalize the extra judicial killing" - the gop

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Didn't even need to see the thumbnail to guess he wasn't white.

[–] motor_spirit 8 points 22 hours ago

go take away this dumb broad's ability to speak too. this knee jerk shit is no better than swatting, results are the same regardless of intent

people who are waiting to sic police on other groups should get dealt with by those they fear

[–] nomoredrama 0 points 22 hours ago

She shouldn't have brandished a weapon (the bat) She had a great case of discrimination. She should have called the police herself, because the store worker was threatening her dad.