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[–] Chonk 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What kind of expensive resources you need to just post on Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

A human being.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Glad I was always suspicious of Proton.

[–] oyzmo 5 points 1 hour ago

From the statement on their webpage: " We believe in people before profits, and our primary shareholder is the non-profit Proton Foundation whose mission is to fight for an open internet that promotes freedom of speech and freedom of information."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 hours ago

Well this is certainly only one of the decisions of all time. I guess we finally got our reaction from the board. I was waiting, hoping to hear some rebuke of Yen’s bullshit. Didn’t expect another intentional step into shit. Bye Felicia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Welp, I guess I'm switching to Tuta now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I just set up a paid account on Tuta today replacing my paid Proton account.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone recommends Tuta in these threads.

I just (finally) had a look at their pricing. Seems egregiously expensive? 6EUR / user / month for their cheapest business plan is a bit nuts

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

That’s what Microsoft 365 Business Basic, Google Workspace Starter, and Proton Mail Essentials are all priced at. Seems like the market price to me

[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 1 hour ago

Much rather not maintain any email in any way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Switched to Mullvad for VPN, Baikal for calendar and contacts, Tuta for professional mail, and considering Bitwarden or Buttercup for a password manager

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I use Bitwarden coming from LastPass. It's great for me and my fam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Wow, that's so many different services to splinter one Proton account into. I was thinking about it too, but that sounds exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago

Fuck the fascists

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 hours ago

Pointing people to reddit, as if that's an alternative. When a VPN provider makes such bad choices it's tempting to imagine that the decision was influenced by somebody who wants to secretly get the message out that the company is no longer to be trusted, because it's hard to see any other logic in it.

[–] finkrat 73 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I'm searching for a safe and cheap alternative for my own domain, but it's hard! And I don't want to give money to American companies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Namecrane, I think they are Canadian

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Mailbox.org located in Germany and run by Peer Heinlein. You can use your own Domain with it just fine

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Tuta is €3.60 a month or €3 a month if you pay for an entire year (€36) not sure if that's "cheap" in your budget.

A .com domain is like $12 per year

Tuta takes like 48 hours to respons, slower than Proton who takes about 12-24 hours, but as long as the response is under 1 week, its fine by me.

I have only been using Tuta for like a month, still not sure if I'm staying tho...

There's also Mailbox.org which is also about €3 a month, which doesn't have encryption by default and they don't have an official opensource client. (Tuta has their client on F-Droid)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

tuta.com is great for me so far

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

PCMag seems to endorse it.

Tuta Mail is free for personal use, though you must accept a few limitations. The free edition lets you send and receive all the secure messages you want, and it includes a secure calendar. Searching encrypted email is limited—with the free edition, you can only search messages up to a month old. Paying 36 euros per year for a Revolutionary subscription ($38.65 as of this writing) removes that search limitation, lets you have multiple calendars, and adds features including filtering rules and 15 alias email addresses (more about those later). It also raises the storage for your messages from 1GB to 20GB.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

yea I just went with a paid plan right off the bat since I have a custom domain, has been totally fine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I been using Canadian webhost hosterbox.com for several years. Been very happy with them.

[–] IndustryStandard 135 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

This might sound crazy but this is way worse to me than the CEO simping for orange man. At least for Trump he has a semi plausible excuse.

Reposting stuff on Mastodon or Bluesky barely requires any additional effort. And I cannot think of a good reason to close abandon the free publicity when they already have it set up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yea this is worse. The politics thing could be brushed off as Andy Yen being uneducated on American politics. Moving away from an already established fediverse platform is contradictory to Proton's mission. It doesn't take more than a minute to copy paste their xitter posts to Mastadon.

[–] MoonlightFox 5 points 4 hours ago

I think the reason is that every time they post something, someone there points out the Andy Yen thing. Thats basically the only comments. So its detrimental to their business.

[–] sleepmode 5 points 5 hours ago

They have tools that let you cross-post effortlessly, so that’s strange.

[–] balder1991 33 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And I’d have thought the potential customers segment are exactly the Mastodon users.

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[–] [email protected] 250 points 12 hours ago (65 children)

After Andy Yen's endorsement of the orange utan, I would seriously reconsider using any Proton product.

Yen tried to backpedal meekly several times since then, to get out of the pickle he got himself into with his definitely-not-impressed customers, but it's a bit late for that: either he's pro-Trump or he's naive. Either way, he makes Proton sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Idc if I likes Trump or not (even though Trump is garbage); but I do care that he says the Republicans - the party that has spent years attacking encryption and privacy, who has sued to obtain private medical records of women and trans people who see doctors, and who is funded by billionaire big tech moguls - is the better option for privacy.

Also just taking ANY position for a leader of the US - one of the biggest parties to the Five Eyes agreement - just leaves a bad taste.

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[–] blackjam_alex 140 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not even Bluesky, they went straight to Reddit. Shame.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's a sad day when "you can find us over on Discord" is a better option.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago

At least reddits getting selfaware enough that every other post is ppl getting mad at ppl telling them to google since those posts are what they find off google, or they've already googled and found nothing.
The immediate assumption that everyone is an idiot who hasnt tried to google is annoying but used to be valid, ppl got lazy there (including me) and would just ask questions that were easily googleable, the issue is those posts are now first on google and none of them have answers lol

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