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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

**again.

Office 2010 is back, people!

[–] singletona 105 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oh look at that, it's 'swap to linux' o'clock.

[–] BombOmOm 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

You don't even have to for this one. Just use Libre Office, it supports every notable OS. Been using it for years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

you don't even have to

Yes you do, that's the point. Dump all Microsoft crap, dump Google, dump apple

[–] AbouBenAdhem 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

That’s like saying you can continue to do business with the guy who keeps trying to stab you, if you stay out of arm’s reach.

It’s not wrong, but it’s ignoring the underlying issue.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What? Do you NOT do business regularly with Roberto from Futurama?

[–] singletona 13 points 2 days ago

Roberto is a special case. For him it isn't a choice, for microsoft it is.

[–] BombOmOm 16 points 2 days ago

If someone is feeling locked into the Microsoft ecosystem, empowering them to unshackle themselves from a large part of it is important. It makes the transition later so, so much easier when you don't need to figure out OS-agnostic softwares across the board.

That said, if you are thinking of ripping the band-aid off all at once, I am 100% on board with it. Just not everyone is ready for it.

[–] singletona 9 points 2 days ago

That was the direction I was getting. Plus linux works fine without TPM 2.0, unlike windows 11. So no real need to axe existing hardware, and unlike the bad old days your hardware is likely well supported.

[–] meeeeetch 8 points 2 days ago

You can just switch to Libre, but as Microsoft products (even paid) enshittify and as the Linux scene makes itself more user friendly, switching the rest of the way over just kind of starts to make sense.

[–] Brkdncr 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Does it have an email/collab product line Outlook yet?

Edit: I just remembered that the New Outlook will be pretty cross-platform since it’s effectively OWA.

[–] BombOmOm 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thunderbird would be the go-to product for emails.

[–] Brkdncr 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thunderbird lacks calendar, shared scheduling, and a number of other collab features.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thunderbird has a calendar by default now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Does it have an email

It's for text and spreadsheet. It's not a media player either. Nor is it a new operating system.

[–] Squizzy 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just switched the M365 yesterday and it is atrocious, I would argue that "like outlook" would mean fucking infuriatingly shit.

I wish my company would go away from them, gsuite was really good but they are also a shit company.

M365 is trying to do too much with everything it has.

[–] Brkdncr 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whether you like it or not, it’s almost the defacto for business collaboration.

[–] Squizzy 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I have heard it is far more popular than google in the states. I would champion neither but google are definitely better UI designers in my book. For something with so many features I can never get M365 to do what I want.

It is also hectic the amount of sites it connects to, live, microsoft, outlook, copilot, m365...gsuite was just fluid - once you were in you could open anything and be fine, this keeps asking for permission and to relog in for each app.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cough except for lagginess on Wayland cough

[–] over_clox 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dang, hard to think, I've been running Linux for like 14 years now.. 🐧

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Time to distrohop again!

I've landed on Gentoo, not switching again.

[–] singletona 7 points 2 days ago

I took a couple years off of linux for the sake of gaming, but literally when those games could be run on linux i went back.

Started in 04. took a couple years off in the late 2010's. It's been a wild ride for me.

[–] BombOmOm 2 points 2 days ago

‘swap to linux’ o’clock

On a 100% unrelated note. This reminded me of a Half Life / Eve colab video: Clear Skies. It's hot drop o'clock!

[–] BigTrout75 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hi, I'm Clippy and you need to watch this 5 minute ad about how Facebook brings families together before you can save you document.

[–] GreenKnight23 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BigTrout75 1 points 55 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Been using LibreOffice and OnlyOffice since university, well over a decade ago, haven't once missed MSOffice.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

you already did this before.....

office 2010 starter. slightly reduced functionality word and excel, and 'office to go' usb creator. had ads. only ever saw/see generic microsoft ones. like they never actually tried selling the space to anyone.

came preinstalled on new systems from major oems during a short window between ms works' retirement and office 2013's release.

tanked sales of 'real' office enough that it was pulled less than two years later and never tried again.

until now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) money..... MONEY!!! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Of course they do

[–] Lost_My_Mind 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not even a fan or advocate of linux. I find the whole system to be confusing, and lacking in compatability.

That being said, it REALLY feels like somehow linux is controlling microsoft to make windows as bad as humanly possible to force people to switch. I know they won't, but it really feels like microsoft is almost DARING people to switch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

name checks out.

[–] singletona 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oddly enough Microsoft is on a board that directs the companies that are part of open software backing so in a strange way you ... aren't? Entirely wrong?

I think?

I dunno.

Your comment made my head hurt.

[–] dbkblk 7 points 2 days ago

Just take a deep breath and imagine you're a pinguin, it'll be fine :)