Lack of high quality public transit.
"Just drive bro"
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Capitalism isn't a big deal. As though giving a select few billions won't corrupt the nation around them over time.
Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
people do it just for pleasure
there are other reasons, and pretending there aren't won't help youconvince the people who continue to choose it.
Can you... Provide some of those reasons?
cost, culture, & convenience are the ones I usually refer. gas station hot dogs are cheap and convenient. turning down family recipes put a social strain related to culture. those are two great examples that cover all three. I'm sure you can imagine more: stopping for a fast food burger on your way to protest at the Capitol, etc.
Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There's a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they're objectively cheaper.
There are many cultural practises that we've left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can't say it's my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.
I'd put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn't care about consent, just because it's easier doesn't mean it's right.
If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? "In this house, we say the N word!", "okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!" Like, stick up for what's right, don't crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn't permit amoral acts, convenience isn't a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.
none of your arguments will hold water with the lived experience of most people. they don't want to see the disappointment in their grandma's eyes over something they don't believe, themselves, to be a just reason for turning down her cooking. they didn't see a problem with grabbing some food on their way to make the world a better place. your grandstanding is not only ineffective: it comes across as bizarre and unhinged.
convenience isn’t a valid reason to do wrong
we've been over this: most people don't think it's wrong.
culture doesn’t permit amoral acts
we've been over this.
Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things.
i think you meant immoral. as it turns out, culture is a great reason to choose amoral actions, and most people think eating meat is amoral.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper
sometimes, for some people.
stick up for what’s right, don’t crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect
most people don't think eating meat is morally wrong.
Oh god I didn't even notice I was replying to you.
Gross, you're the worst, most bad faith debater I've ever had the displeasure of talking to.
You don't argue in any sense of data or fact, just shitty little retorts amounting to nothing more than "no, actually".
Don't bother replying, I'm blocking you across all instances until you get an education, maybe when you turn 18 or something.
I’m blocking you
oh thank god
You don’t argue in any sense of data or fact, just shitty little retorts amounting to nothing more than “no, actually”.
there's no data you've presented to discuss
you’re the worst, most bad faith debater I’ve ever had the displeasure of talking to
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith
just because it’s easier doesn’t mean it’s right.
i didnt say it's right. i said it's a reason people choose meat.
Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies.
this doesn't change the fact that, for some, in some situations, it is a better source of calories-per-dollar
Legalize cannibalism
What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is not the matter of the state!
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I had a discussion/argument in ~2018 with a friend who is/was very anti-trump. I brought up the dangers of ICE and how, at the time, they were the biggest sign of an overtly fascist future. He immediately handwaved it and dismissed me as crazy.
He's got a degree in history education and was obsessed with WW2 history, so I didn't think this would be a point of contention. But for a lot of liberals (including him) Fascists have to literally be wearing a swastika before they're called what they are. Some won't even acknowledge the existence of a Nazi Salute when they see one.
Even today he's obsessed with Trump as the single anomaly in US politics and doesn't see the bigger picture.
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People not caring about their privacy and their data being collected and sold to everyone. "Eh, it's not like my data is worth anything". If it wasn't, it wouldn't be sold, moron. All those spam and scam calls you receive? Yeah, that's because your "worthless" data is being sold, resold and spread out everywhere. But hey, if you fall for a scam and lose, dunno, 50k dollars, it's not a big deal, huh?
If it wasn't, it wouldn't be sold, moron.
I think more people should be concerned about their privacy, but I don't really agree with this premise. It's kind of like if there were diamonds in some peoples trash, so a company collected everyone's trash so sift through it and take the diamonds to sell. The fact that some people's trash is valuable enough for them to do this, doesn't mean mine is.
That's how these work, they hoover up everything and sell it in bulk. It doesn't mean any given users data is valuable. And that's why so many don't care.
As far as scam calls go, I have a number I have never given to anyone outside immediate family, who I know haven't shared it, and still received scam calls. They just call every number, even if you don't answer. Pretty sure if it rings at all they flag it as potentially active. Sure spreading it around may increase the number, but there's no true way to hide.
If it wasn't, it wouldn't be sold, moron.
😂 More people should be aware of this.
When people dismiss children's concerns. Maybe to adults is not a big deal, but to kids it does matter. I make an effort to pay attention and listen when a child tells me something.
This. Sexual abuse goes ignored because of this attitude in parents
Absolutely and lets add that some children only disclose once to a trusted adult who might not always pay attention. It breaks my heart.
I also feel particularly passionate about this, as felt totally dismissed by nearly every adult in my life as a kid. That shit feels so defeating and isolating. it can seriously fuck you up.
It is. Sending you an internet Hug. You matter and should have had someone who listened to you back then. 💜
as felt totally dismissed by nearly every adult in my life as a kid
So at some point it stopped for you?
I wish. lol. no, I just became an adult.
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Not a specific example, but it infuriates me more than anything when people say it doesn't matter that hardware, software and media are becoming increasingly dependent on an internet connection to operate.
People lack the foresight to care that the things they are paying for right now, wont last like similar things do from 10-20+ years ago.
Your old dvds, vhs, cds, vinyls, game consoles, tvs telephones.
The current implementations of these mediums have taken ownership away from the consumer, and nobody cares.
I anticipate a massive loss of historically pertinent hardware and information that will result in the new norm of paying for limited access to anything and everything.
Maximum consumption and profit, minimal preservation and environmental efficiency.
Nobody cares, like we are all slowly boiling frogs.
not if you are a big fat P I R A T E 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
hint: be one and stop financing the slop industry
I buy the games that deserve it, when i can afford it.
Over 900 games on steam, not garbage either.
Piracy has its place, but voting with the wallet is important too.
of course, got factorio recently because addiction. and a few others.
pay people who dont nickle and dime you and actually deserve it, its already a great start.
These devices also collect a lot of personal data. The internet connection isn’t necessarily for the device to be useful, but rather to serve ads or sell user information to the highest bidder. Just look at how cars gather data that insurance companies buy. Or the news that Jeep were going to start displaying ads in the center console.
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Trump getting elected in 2016. “The checks and balances will keep him in line” I was told.
To that I say: go fuck yourself.
The same people are saying the same thing this time around. It’s insane.
They're doing it while seeing him dismantle those checks and balances.
thats like any conservative or liberal i try to reason with
Trump getting elected
Republicans having Senate, House and Presidency.
"Oh it's not a big deal!"
You'll be fucking lucky if you'll still be living in a home at the end of these 4 years, or with a job or living at all.
Dog poop in my car. The owner insisted it was not a big deal. I told them zero poop is allowed in my car and made them clean the seat.
If poop is NBD to them they shouldn’t mind cleaning it.
ads based internet is the death of democracy
Why are ads being made for the internet?
The comment is about the case google won for collection and selling data of individuals and the ramifications of that case. This is the primary underlying issue in the present.
The right to own and sell a part of a person—their digital self is ultimately a forfeiture of autonomous citizenship. It is also an implied forfeiture of freedom of information which is the third pillar of democracy. Allowing the ownership over a part of a citizen is giving up citizenship. This is why you do not own anything, and everything is a subscription, and enshitification; it is all due to this one core issue of your right to own all of yourself free from slavery including the sale and exploitation of a part of your person. This is a master link, the precedent that lead to where we are at. "The ads based internet" is about the sale and collection of your personal data with the intent to exploit you. That is a violation of a fundamental human right. This was never about banner ads. It is about placing people in information bubbles and spheres of influence. It is about stupid consumers and corporate overlords extracting taxes for every move a peasant makes. Such is the true power of controlling information. Like your internet search results are not deterministic. It does not matter where you search. There are only 2 web crawlers that are relevant in the present world; Google/Microsoft. All others indirectly query these two. They can fingerprint and track nearly everyone in real time. You are being targeted for more than just ads. This is the death of democracy because a citizen must be autonomous and well informed in any democracy and this is not possible when you can be manipulated through bowdlerization and targeted misinformation or overload.
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