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Trump will deliver the final death blow to the liberal order (www.aljazeera.com)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/politics

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Somdeep Sen, Associate Professor of International Development Studies at Roskilde University

The liberal world order, with its supposed commitment to the rule of law, human rights and equality for all, met its demise in Gaza.

There is more than enough evidence confirming the genocidal nature of Israel’s campaign in Gaza. Yet, political leaders in the West have been uncompromising in their support of Israel’s efforts. At the United Nations, the majority of the world has consistently passed resolutions condemning Israel’s actions in Gaza and called for an end to the occupation. Israel has responded by making UN agencies and personnel targets of war. The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants against Israeli leaders. The United States has rejected the court’s decision and Israel has continued to bombard Gaza. All of this has happened under a Democratic US leadership. With the return of US President-elect Donald Trump, we can expect a fast-track dismantling of whatever is left of this liberal order.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

While I generally agree with the points raised in the article, I have to say there is a certain level of irony seeing this particular text in Al Jazeera (with them being funded by Qatar).

I do like their coverage of Africa, it seems informative and relatively balanced (perhaps I just don't know any better English language sources).

I lean towards agreeing with their coverage of India, but the Qatari connection makes me cautious.

They are pretty bad on Ukraine. Giving coverage to faux-opposition russian imperialists and having a somewhat cavalier attitude that they do not demonstrate for example with Gaza.

That being said, for all their faults they can do good work, just got to remember their Qatari connection.

[–] actually 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like them for their strengths, and avoid reading about stuff they are handicapped. After reading them for a while, I agree they are not to be used for gulf states politics, Ukrainian war, and some US politics.

But, if one avoids all that, there is some excellent coverage of many world events.

US politics there is hit or miss. Some writers just don't understand the USA. They understand how America affects their own countries but have half baked notions on what makes people in America "tick" on any side of the isle. But they have some excellent opinion writers too, who really get things. Those people would be called socialists here.

They do have some correct reporting of Ukraine, but that Russian bias is a bit too raw there for me, and that Russian bias is not related to their USA handicaps. Mostly different writers and editors

I don't think they understand China that much, and their Indian coverage is interesting on what they do report. And like many news sites in the USA and EU and Japan they tend to under-report African events; but do it better than most USA media sites

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Agreed. For some reason, I don't like their US coverage. It's not biased per se, but like you mentioned it often doesn't click (not American, but I lived in North America for a decade).

It's as if they can't figure out whether they want to report as outsiders looking in or as if they are reporting from within the US. Better to stick to one framing. I actually prefer an "outsider looking in" perspective as some of the US-based internal-focused reporting is not for me.

As weird as it sounds, I do like NYT for US coverage (from the US) and I tend to avoid their coverage on Europe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That being said, for all their faults they can do good work, just got to remember their Qatari connection.

every big media has connection somewhere, which is why best approach is to study different perspectives and then make some synthesis from information you get.

there is no single source of information you should take at face value. and if you want to dissect something, you should dissect the message, not the messenger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Studying different perspectives is only a valid technique to arrive at the truth when all participants are participating in good faith.

The average story between a truth teller and a liar is still a lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

not really sure what is your point, no one said you should do mathematical average of whatever you find.