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White House urging Democrats to reject progressive push to block arms transfers to Israel (www.timesofisrael.com)

submitted 2 days ago by TokenBoomer to c/progressivepolitics

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With legislation almost certain to fail given bipartisan backing for Israel, administration’s decision to weigh in shows desire for party to maintain pro-Israel stance after election

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah the Biden administration is going down as a terrible Presidency.

No punishment for January 6th, escalated war, lost reproductive healthcare rights for women, no functional student loan action, resulted in a more focused Republican party and Project 2025. Genocide in the middle east.

Now it's scorched earth on the way out. "But he tried his best" get the fuck out of here.

We would have been better off if Trump just finished his second term. It wouldn't be any worse than right now except the Republican Party would be on their way OUT in January instead of coming back in with determination and a new focus and a chip on their shoulder.

Cutting Trump off in 2021 and letting him come back four years later without punishment is the equivalent to letting a rabid dog out after you finally caught him. You think it's going to be easy to stop him again?

Fuck Joe Biden. And Merrick Garland is a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I get the sentiment but at least in my view Biden has had an overall reasonably productive term with the fatal flaw that he was trying to be "reasonable" with the GOP when he really shouldn't have been.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Define "productive". He did very little, and much of what he did was late in the presidency or undercut by the courts. What do you think is his biggest accomplishment?

[–] thedirtyknapkin 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

have you not been paying attention to all the headlines about actual meaningful anti trust action in this country? that's because of Joe Biden's cabinet.

the true power of the president is in appointments. in much the same way that trump is responsible for repealing roe because it was his supreme court justice picks, this is Joe Biden's doing. so if Google does indeed need to sell chrome, that's one thing he did.

really though, he's changed the course entirely on anti trust. these are the first meaningful anti trust cases since the 90s. it's actually a huge deal.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

You must be forgetting the corporate infrastructure bill.

Biden is FDR 2.0!!!!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Admittedly I don't remember most of his specific policies, but I'd say his support for labor (setting aside the rail workers strike; that was fucked up). The inflation reduction act also sounded important but I don't really understand what it did.

[–] finitebanjo 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, the Biden administration has been privately working to push back against the Senate legislation, with officials from the White House, State Department and Pentagon reaching out to various lawmakers on the fence about how they might vote, one US official told The Times of Israel.

Source remained unnamed, basically "trust us bro."

[–] timewarp 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Considering the Biden admin just vetoed a UN Security Council resolution for a ceasefire and release of hostages, the idea that this is a "trust us bro" situation is willful blindness. At this point I'm just going to assume either Biden will do whatever Israel wants on his own free will, or they have some serious blackmail on him.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's following decades of US State Department foreign policy. At this point nothing short of Israel attacking the US will change the stance.

[–] TokenBoomer 7 points 1 day ago

They already did that, nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you think the Times of Israel is making things up? Because anonymous sources aren't anonymous to the reporter, they're anonymous to us. Granted, Israeli newspapers are quite a bit less trustworthy than most, but it's hard to see how a fabrication is valuable to them.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I see very clearly how making a fabrication is valuable to them. What I don't see is why a US Lawmaker would do an exclusive interview with a foreign newspaper and remain anonymous on this issue, or why many other supposedly stayed silent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

How? The thing they wanted to happen happened, and the guy they're trying to portray as having their back is a lame duck. The quote is an "official", not a lawmaker and could be from the administration itself or any of a host of pro-Israel lawmakers who would happily reassure an Israeli newspaper that the Democratic establishment is still with them all while maintaining the faux confidentiality that intra-party lobbying has.