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"We" didn't vote for this (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago by irreticent to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22215297

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22680392

Thinking of red states vs blue states is busted. Plenty of good visualizations of this over the years, but this election in particular feels really important to point out "We" did not chose this.

When I say we I mean registered US voters, but even less so citizens, and even less so again residents.

Even of the voters who did vote for the GOP candidate, who can say how many really wanted him or his policies vs they just didn't want more of the status quo Dems.

The popular vote tallies in this graphic are out of date too, He definitely didn't win in a landslide the way it can appear with red and blue maps. His win in the popular vote was also pretty small now that more votes have been counted. https://www.thenation.com/.../donald-trump-vote-margin.../

So, what if Biden used broad immunity SCOTUS granted to declare a crisis of democracy - That between massive disinformation campaigns by enemies both foreign and domestic, voter suppression, as well as many other factors, the will of the people can't be discerned from our recent presidential election. That it would be a dereliction of duty both to the people and to his oath to defend the constitution to hand over power to someone whose clear and declared intent is abuse the power of the office to fundamentally reshape or demolish our republic based on this highly suspect and incomplete result (remember, most people didn't even vote)

Here is my off the cuff proposal for what to do after that

A new election, everyone must vote. Trump and Harris on the ballot, but each major party must offer 2 candidates, and we're using Ranked Choice Voting. 1st place gets presidency, 2nd place gets VP.

Biden almost certainly won't do anything like this. He is clearly a coward with a stupid sense of optimism - a "things will be just fine, no need for any drastic measures" ever, mentality, and despite some rhetoric has shown no signs that he thinks there is anything to actually be concerned about from the party which has veered hard towards fascism. But, hey, a guy can dream.

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[–] Jimmyeatsausage 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” John Stuart Mill

Not voting is still a choice, and a choice too many make. The argument makes sense in a contest where the winner of the popular vote loses the election, but in this case, the majority of people who could be bothered to vote chose Trump. I find myself much less angry with this outcome than last time he won. It's more disappointment this time, at least for me.

[–] SacralPlexus 2 points 2 weeks ago

I find myself much less angry with this outcome than last time he won. It's more disappointment this time, at least for me.

I agree. For me it’s a quiet feeling of resignation and despair. Last time he was elected there was a lot of ambiguity about how bad it would actually be because he was an unknown quantity, a wild card. But then we lived through four years of madness, corruption, evil, and death. That America definitively chose this path again leaves no ambiguity this time. Most of us are evil, and deliberately so.