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  • Former President Donald Trump said that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s proposal to remove fluoride from the U.S. water systems “sounds okay” to him.
  • Kennedy, who is poised to play a health policy role in a potential Trump administration, recently wrote, “The Trump White House will advise all U.S​. water systems to remove fluoride from public water.”
  • According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “the safety and benefits of fluoride are well documented and have been reviewed comprehensively by several scientific and public health organizations.”
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[–] [email protected] 136 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (55 children)

Two days from now timelines are going split. I don't know what will happen in both, but I can tell you for sure I'd like to avoid the timeline where Trump wins. If for no other reason than all the bad breath this single choice will cause.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

It’s like Back to the Future’s alternative Biff-world versus the saner reality.

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[–] Gingerlegs 68 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If he wins, we are all fucked

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[–] brucethemoose 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Oh, every day is going to be like this if Trump wins.

Most of it probably won't be followed through on, but it's going to be some outrageous plan or statement like this every single day.

Like, what other administation could make a scandal out of a NOAA weather prediction? It ultimately meant nothing, but still...

[–] HappycamperNZ 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You know the best part about Biden?

I forgot the US actually had a president. Notice how he's just been able to get along and do stuff?

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[–] seaQueue 11 points 3 weeks ago

Trump will make America great again by making sure our rivers are just as flammable as they were in the late 1960s.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This was literally an episode of Parks and Rec. It was supposed to be satire...

[–] ripcord 12 points 3 weeks ago

There were decades of examples before that of fluoride conspiracies being spouted by kooks and insane people. It's kind of a trope.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People have known that water fluoridation is an international communist plot to sap and impurity our precious bodily fluids since at least the 50s!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's why I only drink grain alcohol and rainwater

[–] _bcron_ 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Trump White House will advise all U.S​. water systems to remove fluoride from public water.

Municipalities will advise the Trump White House that they will not listen to a man who had his brain eaten by worms

Ahh, the good old days when Trump said 'let states decide' and they decided to ignore his profoundly idiotic ass

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

I think I remember reading that the prevalence of fluoride in drinking water is the single greatest medical breakthrough in "population health" of the 20th century or something.

Like a fancy CT scan might help someone who needs a CT scan but fluoride helps everyone mitigate dental problems (and the many and varied related issues) all the time.

I guess in fairness dental hygiene has probably improved a lot since fluoride was put in the water, so if it's less important then any potential side effects might be more concerning.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess this isn't satire anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

But will he make sure you guys keep the lead pipes? They are essential for good health!

[–] Deway 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

What's the big deal with Fluoride in drinking water in the US? Like most European, I don't get fluoride enriched drinking water and it's never been a big deal.

Don't you guys use toothpaste with Fluoride?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

It specifically helps kids who haven't gotten in the habit of brushing properly yet. We have non-fluoride parts of the country that show higher cases of child dental work needed. We also eat a lot of high fructose corn syrup.

Overall for the whole population it is a net gain.

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[–] acosmichippo 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what does white house “advice” actually mean for this? sounds pretty toothless luckily.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I see what you did there

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

The Orange Turd has not heard a bad idea he does not like.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Obama-appointed US judge Edward Chen found fluoridation could cause developmental damage and lower IQ in children at levels to which the public is generally exposed in drinking water. Though the ruling did not state the level at which fluoridation would damage brains, the levels in US water present an unreasonable risk, the court found.

The EPA now must perform a risk assessment that is among the first steps in setting new limits under the Toxic Substances Control Act.

Armed with a growing body of scientific evidence pointing toward fluoride’s neurotoxicity, public health advocates say the legal win shows they are overcoming “institutional inertia” and the unwillingness of federal public health agencies to admit they may have been wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/04/fluoridation-water-epa-risk-assessement

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Though the ruling did not state the level at which fluoridation would damage brains

This right here. The levels have to be many times that in drinking water for it to have any harmful effects.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I thought IQ testing itself was scientifically dubious

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