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[–] PugJesus 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like a win-win. Speaking as a non-vegan and non-vegetarian, meat should be less ubiquitous in our diets anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I always knew the vegans were right

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So we're now at the point where change is proposed to be imposed on poorer groups to save money for rich institutions, and done under the guise of it being "for the environment".

For example, instead of slashing costs, this could have been sold as providing better quality, nutrition and value for the same cost. I.e. Spend the same but get better food for the money.

But no, they had to target financial greed and shitting on the poor, in this case students.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Most vegans are poor.

Also a whole foods plant-based diet is healthier.

[–] Cryophilia 2 points 1 month ago

Whatever works to cut emissions. It's a harsh reality but poor people will have to sacrifice some. The alternative is far more material suffering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not even a vegetarian/vegan, and this is not a bad idea at all. a lot more people than I thought need to learn to love their veggies, nuts, beans, etc

[–] Evotech 3 points 1 month ago

If it's made for me I'll eat it...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Johnmannesca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, that is the polar opposite of gluten free. Hail seitan! 🤘

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, seitan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Seems not bad, a lot of vegan and vegetarian food options with catering I've occasionaly sampled have gotten comparably tasty, too. I'm not a compulsive meat-eater but I'm not on any strictly plant based diets either. We've long known that water and energy inputs for plants are an order of magnitude less than meat for the same output.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

A whole plant based university that caters? Cool!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As long as they have an alternative for people who need to consume a lot of dairy products due to health conditions like me I’m all for the main menu’s being vegan

[–] Cryophilia 2 points 1 month ago

I'm sure that they'll continue to provide special diets for those with nutritional needs. I think they might have to, legally.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

OK I'll bite, surely there is no legit reason for this...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Severe Osteoporosis and Related Hypocalcemia. Basically anything where you need to get as much calcium as possible into your diet.

Probably applies to people with malabsorption syndromes too.

Supplements help but for people on the more severe spectrum they aren’t enough and they need to eat high dairy diets.

I’ve had one prescribed by my doctor ever since my osteoporosis became severe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting. Oddly enough the lowest rates of osteoporosis occur in countries with the lowest rates of dairy consumption and there appears to be evidence that it could be causal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30909722/ This meta analysis shows that dairy doesn't help rates of osteoporosis and hip fraractures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Some people have trouble getting specific nutrients from plants or not enough from plants.

B12 (anemia), D3 (osteoporosis, heart disease), Iron (anemia),

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this is just recycled poore nemecek. it's bad science gaining entrenchment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's "good science"? Imagining that carnism is somehow healthy, sustainable, and environmentally friendly? Good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

good science is recognizing that LCAs are not transferable between studies, so poore-nemecek's analysis must be disregarded.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Catering companies, in search of greater profits, will assume this means loads more high fructose corn syrup and "vegetable based" saturated fats. More garbage, more obesity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You’re making a strawman.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think college food service companies are going to suddenly care about quality?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Going plant-based doesn't automatically mean they will choose the worst food possible. The whole foods plant-based diet is the healthiest and cheapest.

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