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[–] Etterra 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Israel is making demands? I'm so sick of our government letting this rabid dog bite the hand that feeds it. It's well past time for us to give them the shock collar.

[–] yesman 4 points 1 month ago

I agree that ending arms shipments to Israel is the correct action. But don't labor under the illusion that the US can "force" Israel to do anything. I can think of numerous instances in the past where Israel defied and betrayed her patrons. And not just the US, but also the UK and the Soviet Union.

I can only think of one instance where Israel backed down due to pressure, and that was the Suez Crisis. And that took the combined influence of the US, the Soviet Union, and the UN. (as well as help from Canadian diplomats.) Not to mention that Israel was a partner of the UK and France for this adventure and thus didn't have the final say.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The official added that Israel also demands its air force have freedom of operation in Lebanese air space.

Lol. Israel thinks they're king of the ME.

[–] Ensign_Crab 20 points 1 month ago

Since we're just going to give Netanyahu everything he wants, and since Netanyahu is just going to keep the war going anyway, why are we bothering with the formality?

[–] IchNichtenLichten 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If Harris is elected she will be much better at standing up to Israel.

How do I know? Because it's not possible to be any worse than Joe fucking Biden.

I admit this is pure copium.

[–] Cort 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do I know? Because it's not possible to be any worse than Joe fucking Biden.

We both know Trump would find a way to limbo under that extraordinarily low bar

[–] IchNichtenLichten 1 points 1 month ago

We both know ...

Yeah, I didn't think it was worth pointing out that Trump would gleefully support wiping out every last Palestinian.

[–] absquatulate 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for her. She will probably listen to her AIPAC overlords and will not stray too much from the policy. She might not be as bad as Biden the zionists still have a lot of say. I mean ffs, Bibi had the nerve to do a fucking tour of Washington, after months of pro-palestine protests on the US.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 3 points 1 month ago

She doesn't seem to be completely in bed with the Israelis like Biden is. Also, if she wins she has a little window to tell Bibi to go fuck himself before re-election and the threat of AIPAC money became a big problem.

Maybe she'll even expand the SC and get Citizen's United overturned. I can dream, right?