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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Title reads like tall skinny bitches were wearing robot costumes. What they meant to say is that the robots weren't autonomous.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Didn't they actually have people in robot costumes previously though?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it was a guy they had come out on stage and do a dance in a morph suit and a helmet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yes and that was just pathetic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

My recollection is it was the “unveiling” before they built it and it was one person in a costume.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

🎵 Tesla Optimus! Humans in disguise! 🎵

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

🎶 They look like robots but are actually just guys 🎶

[–] Uschaan 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

🎵 Nerver hungry, never thirsty 🎵

🎼 Launched within a year - or thirty.

🫳

🎤

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Hahahahaha 🤣

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 84 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But it was mostly just a show.

Attendee Robert Scoble posted that he’d learned humans were “remote assisting” the robots

Serious question: Wasn't it obvious?

[–] ladicius 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There was some hate babbling when that robot taxi company in SanFran published that their autonomous cars were assisted by remote drivers who took over when situations were too complex for the robots.

I think remote support and steering will be the most reliable and practical way those tasks will be handled for the foreseeable future. How much assistance the cars will need may diminish but I don't think they will ever be able to work without any human assistance.

[–] kameecoding 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sure they will, just put then on rails, make them bigger and available to the public, call it Public AI transport or something

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tele-Reliance Artificial Intelligence Network

[–] kameecoding 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More like No Remote only Railiance AI Robo Taxi Network

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

N.R.O.R.A.I.R.T.N.? I think you missed the joke.

[–] kameecoding 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] kameecoding 6 points 1 month ago

Oh it spells train, i might be overworked, took a while, lol

[–] ikidd 12 points 1 month ago

Light rAIl transit.

[–] MysticKetchup 2 points 1 month ago

I think you're cooking here, maybe you can get a government grant to fund this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thats just regular driving with extra steps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sort of. It just depends on how much the person needs to control the vehicle.

The easiest example I can think of: Imagine lorries traveling along a motorway, and they can do that autonomously because it's "easy", and when they get into a city a remote operator needs to drive them manually into the depot.

Each operator could easily drive 4 or 5 lorries, if only one of those is entering a city at a time. Instead of needing a driver per truck, you only need drivers for the maximum number of trucks that might be entering cities at the same time. For a fleet of 30, that could be 5 drivers.

For things like mining, where safety regulations mean that you want to avoid having people in the mine as much as possible, even having one driver for every haul truck (so yeah, regular driving with extra steps) could be economically profitable if it means you can reduce some other, potentially expensive safety controls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

this would work mostly in the us where the majority of the time you are in wide highways. aside from that, i see how it can be useful.

[–] rsuri 52 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is it still fraud if no one falls for it?

[–] vxx 26 points 1 month ago

Yes

“Fraud” is any activity that relies on deception in order to achieve a gain. Fraud becomes a crime when it is a “knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment” (Black’s Law Dictionary). In other words, if you lie in order to deprive a person or organization of their money or property, you’re committing fraud. 

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

People will still fall for it by treating it like a demonstration of what Elon wants to make, and just an early prototype. The abilities these "robots" displayed are on par with technology that has been available for over 20 years. They don't realize the parts missing, filled in by human intervention, are the most difficult parts to create and literally cannot be done without a major, generational breakthrough in AI.

[–] affiliate 5 points 1 month ago

in my defense, your honor, i didn’t think anybody would actually fall for it

[–] rickdg 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The cars were probably also being nudged just in case.

[–] Num10ck 3 points 1 month ago

like a shepherd he said, you can run 10 or 20 of the cars.

[–] friend_of_satan 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Less like surrogates and more like The Muppets

[–] rob_t_firefly 6 points 1 month ago

At Elon's Tesla robots are secretly humans, and at Elon's Twitter human users are secretly bots.