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Ok, the title was an overuse of emojis as a joke. But seriously, I like some limited use of emojis because it helps me convey intention/emotion so that I'm less misunderstood and also adds some more feeling/fun to text content πŸ˜„

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[–] BilboBargains 7 points 3 months ago

I like them used sparingly. There's art to using just the right emoji in the right spot that conveys a message in a way that is difficult to achieve with text.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I think it might just be the old creeping in. Kids like emojis, and they weren't around when we were kids, so it is new and strange so I don't like it, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Overuse of emojis can also really be annoying for people using screen readers. They clapping hands get clapping hand to clapping hands hear clapping hands something clapping hands like clapping hands this. So it's also an accessibility issue.

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[–] 9point6 7 points 3 months ago

Made me go and check, but surprisingly lemmy doesn't have an emojipasta community

I would have thought that one would have made the jump

[–] folekaule 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't mind them when used appropriately, but remember that us old people may struggle to make out which emoji we're looking at when the text is small.

To my eyes it also looks out of place in professional writing, so I would find it hard to take you seriously if you use emojis in such a context.

TL;DR: in a casual context, go nuts, but avoid for important communication where clarity and professionalism matters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy has a lot of grumpy old folks who fear change so it just comes with the territory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Odd because why would such people switch to a new platform?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Because they didn’t like the direction Reddit was heading I guess? But I don’t know the full answer. I’ve just noticed that Lemmy seems to skew older than I would have expected.

Maybe it’s just reflecting the demographics of the tech-savvy open source enthusiasts that might be interested in such a project? Are there young people with such interests still? And if so where are they?

I’m also old, just not as grumpy as some, so I don’t really know what the young people are up to nowadays. Most I know in person seem to be on TikTok and instagram but that’s not the tech crowd, if they’re out there somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I dislike emojis in general.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I grew up with forums where emoticons were substituted with smiley images (on badly coded ones, "8)" turned into "😎" even when it was just a parenthetical ending with the number 8 or the eighth point in a bullet point list). I use emoji approximately when I would have used those smileys, it is a good thing they're now standardized, but other than that I find them unnecessary and distracting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Their intentionally bland, unpleasant to look at, and it makes you look like you just got on to the internet for the first time in your life.

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[–] slazer2au 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You only speak one language in a sentence right? How often do you switch between languages in a single sentence?

Emoji are pictograms the same as east Asian languages are pictograms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You know many words in any language, are borrowed from other languages right? You just used a Japanese word when you said emoji.

[–] Wilzax 5 points 3 months ago

While true that the term originates from Japanese, it's important to note that emoji is a loanword that has been adapted into english by changing its pronunciation subtly, and replacing its spelling with a phonetically similar one in an alphabet not used in Japanese.

This is similar to when words and phrases are used without much adaptation in the middle of sentences that are otherwise in a different language. There's a certain je ne sais quoi about English and how it mixes loanwords (such as "calque"), calques (such as "loanword", where individual parts of the word are translated then recombined) and entire unchanged terms (such as "je ne sais quoi") freely, and to varying degrees depending on where you are and who you talk to.

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[–] Wilzax 3 points 3 months ago

East Asian languages aren't pictograms. Most use phonetic alphabets. Among those that don't, very few characters use visual resemblance to convey meaning, and no language uses primarily pictographical characters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. At the font sizes I tend to view text in, I can read text clearly but emoji just look like blobs. The details are so small that ALL of the faces look like yellow circles.

  2. There are so many emoji, many of them with only slight differences between them, that they render each other meaningless.

  3. So many of them are being used as something else and keeping up with their actual meaning is just not worth the time.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I haven't specifically seen anyone go off the rails when it comes to emoji usage on Lemmy; I can only comment on my particular feelings about emoji: Like any tool, emoji can be used in ways which are confusing. However, the value of these little images conveying additional context to written text is useful. There is so much of the personal voice which is lost with written words, unadorned with body language, tone of voice, and facial expressions. Emoji are like a written solution to this issue (for those that don't pick up on context on words alone). I am fine with the usage of emoji.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I do them anyways ignore the downvotes live your true self β“‹β’ΆπŸ‡

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I predate emojis by a bit, they never really caught on with me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought lemmy got an emojipasta community when I saw your post πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

omg πŸ™ can you 🫡 imagine 🧠?? that would bee 🐝 crazyyy πŸ‘‰πŸ€ͺ

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[–] Jimmycakes 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because some people are afraid to have emotion

[–] deafboy 3 points 3 months ago

We can tell you probably have an emotion if you use one, we just can't be sure what emotion. The emoji you type is almost certainly not the one we see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because CoOl KiDs DonT UsE eMoTIcOns

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It definitely depends on the instance, but as a whole it’s probably a bit of carryover culture from the other place where emoji are not generally accepted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think using one here and there is fine. It's only annoying if there's more than one or if the comment is nothing but an emoji.

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