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Spaceship of Fools - An extensive counterpoint to the usual narrative from 2017 forward (washingtonspectator.org)
submitted 1 year ago by paraphrand to c/ufos
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This new article is questioning the narrative surrounding To The Stars Academy and everyone affiliated.

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[–] DaughterOfMars 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is really gross. An opinion article making dramatic debunking claims with zero evidence and linking to other opinion pieces, blogs, and youtube videos in a desperate attempt to appear thoroughly-sourced.

I want to remove this, but I'd rather remind people here that we are not buying into a UFO scam, we are fighting against decades of disinformation and government secrets that have led to a global taboo about anything related to aliens. Contributing to that stigma and status-quo because you're worried someone might write a book makes me sick. We want the truth, and people like this want you to give up and go home. Fuck them.

[–] paraphrand 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When you say zero evidence, what do you mean exactly? I’m not sure about it all, but there are links peppered throughout the whole thing that seemingly cite claims. Do you take all or most of them as false?

Like I said elsewhere, I’m not one to try to prove the whole phenomenon is bunk, but I can’t imagine every single last claim made in the piece is false. There’s dozens and dozens of them.

I can understand if you highly question the SEC claims in particular.

I appreciate the link being kept around. I’m not here to post stuff and be a thorn in anyone’s fun. This just happened to be a new piece with new claims about TTSA I saw that offered a different take I had not heard in the UFO echo chamber that is reddit before.

[–] DaughterOfMars 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I am talking about. You saw links throughout the article and assumed that meant that it is well-sourced. Why don't you actually take a look at some of those links?

[–] paraphrand 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did though. Including the docs sent to the SEC.

When I say “seemingly” I mean to leave room for your opinion. I’m not here to argue or push an agenda.

[–] giacomo 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We only want the truth that we want to believe?

[–] DaughterOfMars 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This isn't about belief and this article isn't skepticism. This is categorical denial. If you can't accept the possibility that Grusch and many others are telling the truth, then why are you even here?

[–] whostosay 1 points 1 year ago

The wording definitely screams hit peice as well.

[–] giacomo 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am here for the discussion surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrials.

I can always leave if that doesn't sit right with you.

[–] DaughterOfMars 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your only comment in this community has been to insinuate that I am delusional. Don't pretend you're a paragon of virtue.

[–] giacomo 3 points 1 year ago

You have been nothing but hostile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This reads like an angry child bent on making sure no one studies this topic. The fact that a skeptic investigator is filling am ethics complaints on the disclosure act is telling that they don't want any truth except one that keeps the phenomenon squarely in the Hocus-Pocus domain.

[–] paraphrand 3 points 1 year ago

I believe the phenomenon is real. But I have always found TTSA to be a very weird organization ever since I learned of it in ~2020.

[–] paraphrand 2 points 1 year ago

I just noticed the screenshot of a Tim Burchett shirt for sale is not official.

He has other edgy shirts, including one with big foot, but not anything UAP.