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I first came across the book in 2017, bought it and was immediately hooked by the story.

Years passed, and when they announced the casts for the series, I was skeptical (I'm not a big movie/TV person) as I knew nothing about Michael Sheen and David Tennant.

Decided to give it a try, and boy, it's so good. Everyone is so perfectly casted.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m genuinely worried about II. Not because I don’t think Gaiman can go it alone, but because the original had an unstable insanity to it that will be difficult to continue without being ridiculous for ridiculous’ sake.

I hope it’s good, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I'm out of the loop. Did he have a writing partner for the first season but not the second?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The first season is based entirely on the book that's cowritten with Terry Pratchett. How you feel about the second season that'll be entirely from him and despite early assurances there won't be more, depends on how you think he is as a writer. I think he's matured, but certainly the book was a favourite that counted him as a writer because he had Pratchett to humanize and bring down the stakes to what I consider to be his storytelling tics to be clever and a bit grand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

(that said, despite my issues with the series, for a lot of reasons, it's probably the best adaptation of a Pratchett story because on the other hand his characters don't seem to survive transition to visual media, e.g. the Discworld shows)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh my goodness. I've read that book 3 times but somehow I totally forgot that he wrote it with Pratchett. Embarassing. I really did enjoy the first season, though. I have high hopes for the second.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The second season was co-written with John Finnemore, so I think we’re safe. Finnemore has a similar vibe to Pterry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

tentatively crossing fingers Gaiman has gotten better at breaking a long form story as well, so we'll see

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

He actually co-authored the book with the late Terry Prachette. They had plans for a sequel, but that didn't pan out as PTerry was afflicted by dementia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While it was never written, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gailman talked about the second book all through the night whenever they shared hotel room while promoting the first book. It's somewhere on Neil's tumblr where he said that.

So while it is only Neil that wrote the second season, i think he'd know what Terry wanted out of it too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree, the thing that makes the book so good is the tag-team between Pratchett and Gaiman, Pratchett was amazing at mixing humor and seriousness like a true comedian. No offense towards Gaiman of course, but even if it's good it'll probably feel like something is missing, because it is.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The chemistry between Angel and Crawley is just umph chef's kiss.

Although, I'm the archangle fucking gabriel is said in such an impeccable manner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone downvoted you, here's an upvote. Their chemistry and slow burn love is hnngghh.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know right. I love it! That scene at the paintball arena. Angel was like 🥺🥺 devil could u help me with the stain. So cute 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Can't wait for season 2.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And the part where Crawley said, "I lost my best friend :("

Masterpiece

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Actually reading the book right now for the first time! I'm about halfway through and really enjoying it so far.
I did watch the show when it first aired so I'm struggling not to picture Tennant and Sheen in the main parts but i think they did a pretty good job so I'm not too worried.
It's my first Gaiman book but umpteenth Pratchett. I think a second TV series without TP will work better than a second book would've done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The BBC audio drama with Mark Heap and Peter Serafinawiz is also excellent. Gaiman and Pratchett make a small cameo playing some policemen!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have not read it, but i shall!

Gaiman's novel "Neverwhere" is also super super good. A very average man enters a different world, faces challenges, seduction and love. The writing was superb, a perfect balance of humour and plot and action. One of the 'classes' of people in Neverwhere is the Velvet. The protagonist referred to her as a velcro. That was unexpectedly funny.

And what a bittersweet ending. I'm a sucker for this kind of endings. Stephen King also does these kinds of 'breakup' endings sometimes.

Side note, the movie Stardust was also really good. Also an "a very average man enters a different world, faces challenges, seduction and love." kind of story, but it's the details that make a movie/story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try Gaiman's American Gods. It has a pretty slow buildup, but once you're in, you're in. I'll see if I can find the book Neverwhere. Stardust is a fun movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah American Gods was pretty good too. I loved the little side storied about other gods. There was one who was a prostitute that ate a man, a jin that body swapped with a struggling businessman, and also something about an ancient god from the prehistoric age.

Stardust is a fun movie.

The first time i watched was in the cinema. I was so smitten by the pretty star lol. The next time i watched w was with my gf. It was torrented and we watched on a computer... we didn't finish watching lol

[–] Jarix 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My introduction to michael sheen was the movie underworld

I would LOVE to see them do an alternate season where rhe actors switch roles.

Heres my introduction to michael sheen to share our first impressions of the guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMwK5BhYpXA

[–] Jarix 4 points 1 year ago

Also David Tenant in Jessica Jones did such a good job with the character he played

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

He's so feral in Underworld, yet is the total opposite in Good Omen.

I saw clips of David Tennant in Jessica Jones. He's bloody scary.

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