this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2024
106 points (100.0% liked)

politics

19150 readers
1686 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 25 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ccunning 110 points 4 months ago (4 children)

a pair of men were fighting in a park when one pulled out a knife. Witnesses reportedly told the station that the men appeared “startled” by the massive police response, and that the men were fired upon by “numerous officers.”

That seems like a completely normal and reasonable response 🤡

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago

For a cop, it's completely normal, just not reasonable.

[–] Uruanna 9 points 4 months ago

We did it! Two guys were fighting, one had a knife, and we stopped that guy from murdering this guy.

[–] Passerby6497 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well yeah, it's not they were on top of a building with a rifle while an ex-president is giving a speech. This was an actually dangerous situation that required a large response.

They reacted appropriately, clearly.

[–] Burninator05 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The cop was from Ohio but, per the article, wasn't attending. It reads like Milwaukee hired a bunch of outside help from other cities police departments to help with security. I think this cop was one of those.

[–] Boddhisatva 15 points 4 months ago

Yes, the article may have been updated after you read it. It now states that to be the case.

The Dispatch added that “several dozen Columbus officers” were sent to the RNC to beef up security for the event, which has a massive perimeter with multiple security checkpoints before anyone is permitted entry.

[–] FuglyDuck 5 points 4 months ago

probably.

There's a lot of manpower in providing security for something like that. And that's before the assassination attempt. soft check points need bodies. hard check points further into the event need even more bodies than the soft check points. And then there's the roving people watching the gaps. Then there's the people inside watching for anyone that slipped through somehow.

Then there's all the other people that want additional security because they're property is next to a soft check point, or vaguely adjacent and protestors/counter-protesters usually have a problem.

and I know internal dialog at the branch levels says we don't have the capacity to provide uniformed security guards if a trump rally comes here. (or Dem rally.) the last trump rally was a shitshow. They didn't have enough capacity in the venue so they set up jumbotrons outside the soft check points. Which were entrances to the skyway. All the people who didn't want to give up their firearms chilled and watched the ~~hitler~~ trump rally, and basically shat all over everyone without regard for "oh, is that private property?"

And yes. I meant that literally, because they didn't provide for sanitation.

[–] jordanlund 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Weird how they say "armed".

Was it just tennis balls? ;)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago
[–] jpreston2005 6 points 4 months ago

"He's got a knife, and we only have like 5 different non-fatal options available to us, shoot him quick before we remember to use them!"

[–] jpreston2005 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Witnesses told WISN 12, a local news station, that a pair of men were fighting in a park when one pulled out a knife. Witnesses reportedly told the station that the men appeared “startled” by the massive police response, and that the men were fired upon by “numerous officers.” Other reports suggested only a single officer opened fire.

When even the guy about to get stabbed is like "woah there fellas, take it easy" 🙄

As an aside, as someone from Columbus, Ohio, we have the worst cops. They're morons. They kill so many unarmed people, and they will write you a ticket for ANYTHING you do in a car. Drive in Ohio, and you will be pulled over and ticketed for the dumbest shit imaginable. Also if you're black you'll probably be shot for holding a sandwich or something.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I think it's Ohio that has the joke about astronauts right? That Ohio has the most astronauts because everyone is dying to get as far from Ohio as possible? Lol

[–] beebarfbadger 5 points 4 months ago

Go easy on them, they have to fulfill their quota of ~~slaves~~ free labour to deliver to the private prison industry just like any other honest job does. How else could they uphold their profit margins if they had to, like, pay for labour? That would not be very american, would it it?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the men were fired upon by “numerous officers.” Other reports suggested only a single officer opened fire.

Trump is gonna get murdered. There's no way his security is this stupid and is able to protect him.

They're basically inviting copycats by showing off how incompetent they are.

[–] barsquid 8 points 4 months ago

Basically all terrorists are members of the Repub cult, though. It's astonishing that anyone shot at Donald. Their leaders are screeching propaganda to ramp up political violence, so I don't doubt we'll see more Repub terrorism. But I'd certainly be surprised if there was a second attempt on Donald.

[–] Wilzax 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gun nut kills gun nut in state where being a gun nut is more protected by law than being a cyclist

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I hate the gun nuts but the guy they killed didn't even have a gun they had a knife lol, I mean lethal force was probably ok given he was trying to stab someone but even they guy stabbed was like "how much you shot him was overkill" lol. All I can imagine is that one scene from I think austin powers where they shoot a guy for a ridiculously long time as he's doing the over the top "I'm being riddled with bullets" shake

[–] Delusional 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"We stopped a murder with murder! Mission accomplished." -Cops

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Violence is terrible to see

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

The cops, however, did not agree.