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[–] Buffalox 94 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately Al Franken was sacrificed by leading democratic women on the wave of me too, on accusations staged by the Republicans.
Because Al Franken was one of the absolute most effective voices against the Republican madness.

Hello Gillibrand. Are you happy now? Did this boost your career like you hoped it would?

[–] CaptainSpaceman 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That was ridiculous though, and media pressure shouldnt have forces his resignation.

[–] Buffalox 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I 100% agree, Al Franken was amazing at framing things and putting them into perspective. The sacrifice of him was a huge misunderstanding and completely undeserved.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Well, a staged photo with the subject in full knowledge is far, far worse than anything done since then, right? Right?? (this was what got him booted iirc)

[–] CharlesDarwin 7 points 4 months ago

The drumbeat from so-called feminists and the "liberal media" would have just kept on going until he did.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If we're going with a comedian, I'd sooner pick Jon Stewart. That is assuming he'd even want to do it.

[–] jeeva 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, as it's not clear if you're already aware, but Al Franken was actually a pretty decent senator for ~9 years.

Jon has stuck his oar into political matters, but not at that level.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah and Al was good at it too before he got sac'ed for a dumb gag photo!

Jon is probably a bit more eloquent and has an impeccable moral compass. I've got a good feeling he's smart enough to know he doesn't know shit about most things but would during himself with people that do and would listen to them on those matters.

Also, he doesn't want to do it which makes me think he'd actually be good at it. He'd recognize it as a mostly shit job that needs to be done well and not as some sort of self-aggrandizing accomplishment after decades in politics. Something about true leaders not seeking power but having it thrust upon them I guess :>

[–] madcaesar 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Jon / Al ticket would be amazing they are both smarter and kinder than any politican out there.

[–] Buffalox 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Bernie and AOC are very good too. There are probably others, USA has a lot of politicians. It's impossible to know but a fraction of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I like Bernie but we'd be running into the same cryptkeeper problems before long too.

AOC while I agree with her on most things doesn't really come off as particularly charismatic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Love how you're being downvoted for pointing out that Bernie is older than either of the other 2 candidates

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In that respect it makes it easy then that 95% of them stride on the party line with no conviction of their own and never waver from what daddy DNC tells them to do, making them generic, forgettable, and unimportant.

It is the exact same for the right except with more outliers that try to be blatantly worse human beings than the others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Bernie is older than Biden, and AOC doesn't know anything about foreign policy.

[–] Boddhisatva 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Al/Jon would work better. I think Franken would do better in the Oval Office while Jon would shine cracking the whip as President of the Senate. Might be able to get some work out of those bastards for a change.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 5 points 4 months ago

Jon Stewart tearing into the Senate on a daily basis for four years would heal my soul

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 5 points 4 months ago

I like Jon too much to make him president. Trying to get health care for 9/11 first responders aged him a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Oh fuck yes. I pick Jon over Al any day, just as I'd pick the either over Biden.

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[–] Zachariah 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean if Al is going to take over this country anyway, might as well be this one. Or the weird one.

[–] Bricriu 8 points 4 months ago

Is it time for an Al/Al ticket?

[–] Kadaj21 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Me? I’d vote for him. Liked what I saw while he was in congress. Still think it was bs how he was pushed out before any actual investigation was done, if memory serves me correctly.

[–] madcaesar 36 points 4 months ago

It was another case of Democrats following the rules, setting an example of decency only for Republicans to go "Hm neat! Anyway, here's a rapist for president"

[–] baldingpudenda 21 points 4 months ago

A comedian is perfect for today's sound bites and excerpts. Him clowning on trump up until the election would be perfect for the TV ratings these networks want. A witty, charismatic guy would win this

[–] eran_morad 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but he pretended to grab some chick’s tits once.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Should have grab em by the pussy. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let's go. Either him or AOC.

[–] Pretzilla 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Al + AOC for veep

She is 35yo on Oct 13th and fully eligible

Though she is inexperienced in foreign policy, she's quick to get up to speed on all things it seems

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't want A.I. for president.

[–] ikidd 8 points 4 months ago

Stop, I can only get so erect...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Not a huge fan of the "SOPA debacle" Al Franken, but I'd take Franken over Biden a million times over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a European, I never heard of this guy and it's probably not a perfect candidate either. But just based on what's written in the article it might indeed be a valid option to consider although personally I'd wish for a more progressive US leader.

Reading comments regarding the presidential election on social media, the thing you literally read the most is that people want someone younger that is neither Trump nor Biden. This guy is still old but apparantly around a decade younger. He's not Biden and not Trump and still somewhat popular across different generations. Might work out.

[–] Buffalox 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Al Franken was possibly the most effective voice against Republican extremism. But he was sacrificed on Republican staged offense on the height of the wave of the me too movement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

He was also the only senator who truly understood the perils of big tech and was willing to stand up to them

https://www.wired.com/story/al-franken-just-gave-the-speech-big-tech-has-been-dreading/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Lewis black!?... Oh nvm

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