I think that’s probably for the best, because macrodosing on alcohol as a society isn’t fixing anything.
Ok, that was too deep maybe. No, I’m not on mushrooms. But I am a believer in psychedelics having positives.
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I would like to take an alternate view of others, but let me start by saying I've done shrooms and I enjoy them and I think they should be legal.
However, the ads selling things like mushroom gummies I have seen on social media are both deceptive about what they can do and are not in any way clear what they mean by 'microdosing.' And that's why my brother went from microdosing to taking massive amounts in the course of a month, claiming it was good for his psychology, and writing that he told his wife to watch him the first time, but she fell asleep and he was fine and now he doesn't need anyone.
My brother is in his 50s and has no experience with such things. He doesn't even like weed.
So I do not think this is necessarily a good thing. It could be a good thing if this sort of thing was done under the supervision of a medical professional, but they are selling them via Facebook ads.
Worse, they are also selling ketamine via Facebook ads and also touting its psychological benefits. Again, getting mentally ill people ketamine could be a good thing if done under medical supervision. That's not happening either.
If you want to do shrooms or even ketamine recreationally, I think that should be your right. But this is like selling people random amounts of lithium and telling them about all the great stuff lithium can do for you.
Do it.
They are awesome, non-addictive and physiologically safe.
Make sure you're in a safe, comfortable place, and if you're doing them with other people, make sure you trust those people, but otherwise have a blast.
Magic mushrooms are the "drug" I really do think everybody should try.
It's not safe for people in maoi inhibitors and a few other drugs. This includes certain antidepressants which are quite common.
Yup… absolutely do not take them if you have had SSRIs in your system within the past 60 days.
I took mushrooms, high dose and micro, while on SSRI's. There's the smallest, most miniscule chance of seretonin syndrome. But 9999 times out of 10000 you'll be fine.
Psilocybin is physiologically safe for people.
As with water, psilocybin can be dangerous to mix with toxic chemicals.
I have easy access to them but even so the first time I had mushrooms when I was 12 wasn't cool and I may have some unexpected trauma from that experience.
Unwritten rule that I guess we should write: no drugs for children.
They don't need their minds expanded, their tiny minds are still sealing themselves together.
Also, people should start with small doses and work their way up.
In fact, there's a lot of research and care people should do beforehand. Mushrooms can be a wonderful experience, but can also be a traumatic one. Learning about them ahead of time goes a long way.
Sure, learn to chew your food or it'll go down the wrong pipe.
Yeah. Tell that to Australian tourists.
Is that a reference?
Why did you put “drug” in quotes?
Because everything is a drug and magic mushrooms themselves aren't the drug in question, psilocybin is.
Also, calling caffeine, heroin and mushrooms a "drug" belies a problem with labeling.
Magic mushrooms, incidentally, being the least toxic of those substances.
What is a "drug" and what isn't is an arbitrary, made-up distinction. There are only molecules.
I guess I would be one of them. Back in high school, it was the only other drug I tried once outside of pot. Then, I proceeded to never have it again until my friends (also same friends from high school) started getting it more and more lately. I barely get to see them but I would say it's probably once every 4-6 months now that I dive in.
I do think the gateway to this was the readily available chocolate shroom bars that were popping up everywhere were I live and got us all to just say sure why not. Now it's a mix of that and also just its self plain or chop it up and steep it for a tea. We all love it and have some great times together doing it.
A vape shop I get my weed from (I'm in a legal state and it's locally sourced, so somewhat less sketchy than your average vape shop weed) got something similar to chocolate shroom bars and I've certainly considered it, but, again, vape shop. Don't buy weird shit from a vape shop.
I would be one of them if I could find a trusted source for mushrooms.
You can buy a pre-sanitized jar and a syringe of spores. The you basically just squirt the spores into the sterile jar and let them grow
Grow your own. A monotub is a pretty easy build.
Eh, there are much worse drugs around. If doing shrooms makes people drink less alcohol, it's a huge win both for them and for society in general.
I wouldn't even consider most psychedelics bad and I even consider mushrooms instrumental to my alcoholism recovery over the last few years. (There are caveats, and I'll explain.)
The issue is some people simply cannot handle psychedelics and bad trips can do more harm than good. If someone is in a risky spot or around shitty people, that can amplify bad experiences 100x. I have had several bad trips, and it's easy to understand why full-blown psychosis is sometimes a thing.
Heavy dosages with inexperienced users that already have issues is a recipe for disaster. Period. Having seen reality completely dissolve a few times myself, it could be a seriously traumatic experience for some people.
However, when used and dosed properly in healthy environment around people who truly care about your well-being, the benefits outweigh the risks in many cases. A person can quite literally rewire their brain and start to heal from depression, anxiety, PTSD or other types of mental health issues. I ain't gonna lie: I thought this was absolute bullshit until I started to actively work to sort out my own issues.
The best part is that psychedelics are mostly self-regulating and a tolerance is formed lightning fast. If you are crazy enough to want to trip several days in a row, it can get super inefficient, super quick.
For the first few months of alcohol sobriety, I was going on some universe hopping adventures, having multiple breakthrough experiences and having a grand ol' time. Then, it just slowed down. I don't know how to say it accurately, but I found what I was looking for and was able to resolve some deep inner conflict.
I still trip on occasion, but at fractions of my previous dosages. I don't need those deep experiences any more and I can continue my recovery at the speed of reality.
Psychedelics aren't inherently dangerous, but they are extremely powerful and demands serious respect. Alcohol is just straight-up dangerous. There are people in my life still that are still killing themselves slowly with the stuff and it sucks to watch.
Honestly I would like to try microdosing LSD, not mushrooms. Something that can be measured, and my youthful experience with these, the tripping is more comfortable/happy/open.
Also it's the only drug I'd ever try again as far as recreational drugs go. Well, I tried cannabis but hated the high, so I guess not the only one but the only remaining one that I would like to try again. In particular the very, very minimal microdosing but might be willing to also trip. Since I am hella respectable now, too many degrees away from being able to get the drug, especially in a format I could divide up to microdose, not sure it will ever be possible. But other than the legal considerations leading to lack of access nothing else makes me not want to - other drugs I think physically unhealthy or bad for your cognition as you age, or too addictive. I don't have those concerns about LSD. I think, like coffee it's more likely to protect your thinking in the long run, and certainly almost nobody wants to trip often.