Remember that the auto industry was so resistant to putting speed governors in cars 100 years ago that they invented the term Jaywalking as a way of blaming the victims of their manslaughter.
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The one rule I would dream of seeing is soft speed throttling to ensure that cars and trucks stay a safe 3 second distance or more apart from each other. That should be relatively easy to do with basic distance sensing and calculations.
Fucking tailgaters. No idea why so few people seem to be aware of how dangerous and stupid it is to tailgate.
No, No. You don't understand. They are great drivers, an accident won't happen to THEM!
They do understand but think that they are playing the statistics. "It can't happen to me" is the mantra of many drivers.
Don't you fucking understand, I HAVE to get to the liquor store 0.38 seconds faster or I'm going to start getting withdrawals!
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It is relatively easy. My 2019 Mazda3 does this already when cruise control is on. Its front manufacturer logo is a radar device, and there are a few more on the car. Making it full-time should be easy enough.
Duno about newer cars, but in a 2017 model bmw it tends to brake for parked cars quite often when using radar cruise control...
Why would you be using cruise control around parked cars?
Was going to ask the same question - cruise control is for open roads like motorways. Not around town. No wonder they had issues with it.
Cruise control is for when my foot needs a break. Especially when I'm speeding through school zones.
Cars broken down in the side of the road
I mean, you should be slowing down at least a bit when passing someone pulled over on the side of the road anyways, no? Just like going through a construction zone. It really depends on how much braking we're talking about.
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There's often cars parked on the side of the road on highways in NZ... Its also incredibly useful in stop and go traffic and sometimes I'm too lazy to turn it off after the traffic ends, until it randomly brakes for a parked car 😅
Maybe you don't. But ancestor post is suggesting to make it mandatory to avoid tail gating and then it had better work properly.
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The Cupra Born I drove the other day (don't own a car and rely on carsharing and rentals for my business) while doing deliveries for a catering event did this. It was really annoying driving in narrow streets with it braking for parked cars.
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My 2017 Volvo just warns me if there's a parked car in a curve, never had it brake automatically for parked cars no matter the scenario, so I guess it's just that BMW's system wasn't quite there yet at the time...
Ah true, yeah I test drove a polestar and a Hyundai ioniq 5 before deciding to go with the bmw and they both worked a lot better, but were also way more expensive since they were new and the bmw was second hand 😅
Unfortunately there weren't any second hand phev volvos available in my area at the time.
My car had a recall on it for braking too much. Probably a software issue that can be fixed, or has been fixed in newer models.
Ripe for abuse as all gaps will always be huge and trivial to weave through.
That means it's the right call to make. Whatever auto industry is complaining about the opposite is beneficial to consumer.
So they want self driving cars, which do not brake for pedestrians and cyclists? Do I understand this correctly?
They want dystopia. Ideally you should pay per door handle use. Pay by kilometer and horn sounds are extra DLC. If possible, you'd keep paying and wouldn't be allowed to change manufacturer and car for number of years so they don't have to be as competitive and innovative. If possible government should mandate each human should have at least one car.
Well, since most of it sounds stupid and exploitative, they take what they can. Rent a heated seat, extra for autopilot and other gadgets, etc. The rest they lobby like crazy pushing against EV, pushing against different zoning laws other than suburban sprawl. Etc. Hyperloop anyone?
It stops cars. It stops innovation.
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These rules are convoluted and near impossible to apply. Specific braking speeds for some objects compared to others? That requires reliable computer vision, which hasn't been demonstrated anywhere yet.
And those speeds? 92mph is 148kph! Why the fuck are cars even permitted to be capable of that when no road in the country allows it? And why would you want to introduce unpredictable braking scenarios at such speeds?
What is feasible is a speed limiter based on the posted limit, but that'd be too practical.
What is feasible is a speed limiter based on the posted limit, but that'd be too practical.
I have recently got a car that tells me the currently posted limit and it is frequently wrong. It misses sign posts and sometimes thinks that a signpost for a side road applies to you.
It also has a speed limiter and a button to set the limit to the detected speed which I use a lot but I wouldn’t want it to do it itself.
Okay but we can still run a max speed governor. Put it at 78, with that annoying beeping sound if you creep above 75.
Thing is like none of our roads are properly tested for the posted speed limits. Interstates can often go up to a 75 limit and regular traffic will go at 85 (because cops dont care til more than 10 over and that difference adds up on long trips) with some people going 90+.
The highest speed limit in the USA is 137kph or 85mph. 148 is not a lot higher, and people tend to be stupid.
I haven’t read up on the new law but the EU already mandates that all new vehicles are required to have “advanced emergency braking”.
I wonder how different that actually is from the US law, or are the car manufactures making a fuss over something they are already doing somewhere else.
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