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President Joe Biden has vetoed H.J.Res. 109, a congressional resolution that would have overturned the Securities and Exchange Commission's current

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[–] SteefLem 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

“…approach to banks and crypto.

Specifically, the resolution targeted the SEC’s Staff Accounting Bulletin 121, which presents guidance around how banks can handle customers’ crypto assets — in effect, they must treat those assets as liabilities. Banking groups have criticized this approach as making it prohibitively expensive for them to handle crypto, while regulators argue it’s necessary to protect investors, particularly after the collapse of high-profile crypto companies like FTX.”

[–] workerONE 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A checking account is a liability to a bank because it must be prepared to pay out the balance if the account holder decides to withdraw. Forcing banks to treat crypto holdings as liabilities makes the bank hold more in reserves in order to be better prepared for a bank run.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This sounds good to me. To my understanding, banks in the US do not actually have to hold any money in reserve for it's customers as of... 2020?

Hey I found the FED posting! https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm

This is my favorite part "As announced on March 15, 2020, the Board reduced reserve requirement ratios to zero percent effective March 26, 2020. This action eliminated reserve requirements for all depository institutions."

Happy Halloween kids. 😈

[–] workerONE 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah that's correct. It's pretty wild that things work this way. Most people think that we still have fractional reserve banking, which is where the bank has $1 in reserve and they lend it to many borrowers simultaneously. With no reserve requirement they can essentially loan money that doesn't exist. Banks want to avoid succumbing to a bank run where too many clients make withdrawals at the same time. But essentially they operate like a retail business that determines how many products to keep on hand in order to meet demand on any given day. Bank loans create both a credit (to the borrowers account) and a debit in the bank's main ledger, the debit is a liability as we discussed, the bank must be prepared to pay.

Banks are limited by their ability to find qualified borrowers who will repay their loans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Meh. If you're investing in crypto then you're accepting the risks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If I underatand correctly, you're saying banks should be allowed to accept the risk of crypto market fluctuations and scams.

Unfortunately when banks lose bets, they effectivel hold the economy hostage until taxpayers bail them out.

Much better to tell them if they want to offer crypto holdings, they need to be able to cover total loss of it.

If that means banks can't hold crypto, I won't shed a tear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No. I was referring to end users. But yes, I'd rather banks be barred from doing anything with it too if it means we're never responsible for bailing them out.

We're agreeing. I think i just worded it poorly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Crypto is meant for self custody anyway, not great if everyone is relying on a bank to do it for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Oh no! What will the crypto bros do?