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[–] DarkCloud 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (18 children)

I don't think it's that God couldn't create a universe without evil, it's just there's a process for making us good AND retaining our freewill.

So he's letting us help to create a universe without evil...

Evil is necessary in this process, but evil is really just God "occluded" - Satan is in this sense working for and with God in this process of teaching humans about good, hence the line "God works in mysterious ways"... We don't know the process, which is why it's faith-based.

It's like yes, your parents could give you a lifetime of pocket money all at once, but they're not going to because you have to learn patience, self-discipline, and saving up for the things you want (or can afford). You have to make choices in that process to learn about those things.

Humans are temporal... God is not.

So for God, God created a world without evil in which humans have freewill... It's already been done, instantly for God.

But we don't live on the same temporal plain.

Claiming God can't do it, is like being the kid asking for ALL the pocket money at once. Parents could do that, but they're letting time and your own temptation teach you the lessons.

That's part of the mysterious ways. But in faith, outside of time, and with the right beliefs and choices, a world without evil where people in your life still have freewill already exists... It's up to you to live there in it, in time.

...and you may end up living there anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Does "all powerful" really mean all? I mean, a lìfe sentence is only about 30 years. Since it's all just social constructs (and even if it isn't) the precise meaning of the word could different that you'd think.

Maybe god was all powerful until they created free will and found that they made free will stronger than themselves. But since god made free will, god is still all powerful.

Like humans making machine learning. We can only influence it, not control it. Does that mean we are not in control? No, we could simply pull the plug.

God could also simply pull the plug, but likely doesn't want to because we are their creation. It's only a last resort.

Anyways, that's my two cents.

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