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Hey guys. I have a steam link I’ve used for quite some time. But I’m wanting to figure out a solution that is similar but grants full PC control. I have my main PC hardwired and a steam link and monitor out in my garage I’m routing to with a power line adapter that works pretty great. But it has a lot of issues when minimizing steam to use as a full PC. I have a mini pc N100 I planned on using as a router. But would be happy to swap to use for this if possible.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

If you have another windows pc, you can use the built-in remote desktop. Or, from Linux you can install a Microsoft rdp compatible client like remmina. (Edit: If using Windows Pro on the target machine, for either of these options)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Keep in mind both options require enabling remote control from Windows settings. It's off by default if I recall right.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Seconding Remmina, very good software

[–] apex32 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the serving PC needs to be Windows Professional, not Windows Home, so that might not work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ah crap, yeah, I forgot about that, you're right.

[–] Blaster_M 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Windows: Parsec, or Remote Desktop

Linux: Moonlight, or NX NoMachine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Why not use moonlight on windows too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Parsec is really nice with extremely low latency but I've also moved over to Sunshine/Moonshine including for Windows.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Sunshine + moonlight

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you got the GPU for it, parsec for windows and sunshine for Linux. Sunshine is a lot more customisable and quicker, but takes a bit of setup and further tweaking to really optimise it.

If you don't have a GPU rustdesk or any old vnc server will do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would this be in the client or in the host PC? My host has a 4090. My client has a N100. No Gpu.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Its most important on the host, but even the integrated GPU on the N100 will have a decoder, what the client needs.

[–] victorz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Curious: what do you mean by "quicker", more specifically? Like faster to set up, or more performant while using it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lower latency and you're usually able to get better quality for less bandwidth.

Its definitely a longer process to setup though

[–] victorz 2 points 6 months ago

Cool, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Parsec is pretty slick imo.

[–] Jtee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it's windows, remote desktop?

I use sunshine on my gaming pc, and moonlight to stream the desktop on a remote device. Works well over VPN too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The N100 is running proxmox RN but will probably be converted over to windows or Linux depending on solutions. I also was reading they have a new ps4 jailbreak so I might look into that providing a similar experience. But sadly no discord kinda kills the ps4 lol

[–] Jtee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are a few "teamviewer" open source alternatives you could containerized in an LXC that might work

I've also seen people set up a windows / Linux VM on proxmox for remote desktop

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah. That was my thinking. The mini pc has Realtek Ethernet adapter which is a fucking nuisance and proxmox detected em outta the box. Opnsense not so much lol

Edit: VM being my thinking. For clarity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Your main issue with that setup will be the power line adapter. A direct connected 1Gb(2.5gb-10gb would be better) connection, QoS’d at a switch level-not at the router-will provide the best performance.

Passed that, if you’re using windows RDP will do what you’re looking for well- but QoS will be very important.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thankfully I work in networking and have a few tools. I have a managed switch I could set something up for. Not sure on how the application of this would look but I’ll deep dive it a bit today πŸ’œ

[–] Brkdncr 6 points 6 months ago

Ignore that previous comment. Rdp works well down to 56k levels. No QoS is needed unless you’re saturated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What kind of managed switch? I’m also in networking and if you want to bounce some ideas or need help tinkering shoot me a DM, this kinda stuff is very fun

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cheap netgear 8 port guy. Lemme find the model #. The software UI seemed very intuitive the one time I went in there to do a few VLAN things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well shit. Amazon doesn’t sell it anymore and I’m away from the house lol. If I remember I’ll bug ya when I get home. The laws of ADHD denote I’ll forget though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another homelabber checking in: u got the name of the neat managed switch already or am I annoying too early? :3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Lmao. You caught me with my pants down. I’m Poopin. I’ll edit the post and add the name in a few πŸ˜†

Edit: Netgear S350

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

^^

Sry for disturbing this sacred doing! Thx though :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I've been using Rustdesk

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What is your use case?

Gaming? Moonlight + sunshine

Management between different OS? TeamViewer in LAN mode.

Management between windows? Remote desktop if your windows version allows it.

[–] dyc3 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I enjoy NoMachine a lot. Super low latency, and quite reliable, but not really for gaming.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Chrome Remote Desktop just werks