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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (14 children)

One thing Bob knows is pulling things. Usually, it's at massage parlors, but hey.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago

Less billionaires, corporations and hedge funds involved in higher education would actually be a turn for the better.

[–] LEDZeppelin 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is why we need to strengthen department of education. Otherwise these asshole billionaires will run education system like theirs own fiefdoms.

Of course repubes want to get rid of department of education. Perfectly on brand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Billionaires certainly despise unions, profiting by exploiting working people is fundamental to their business models. So Republicans of course loathe unions and thus degradation and control of public education, public school teachers has been a running long term goal.

Charter ~~factories~~ Schools are the foot in the door for free marketeers. Why respect teachers, hire more staff and better fund schools, create communities, when you can cut costs, treat kids and education itself as products, and send those savings into the pockets of just a few people.

[–] Pronell 43 points 7 months ago

Yes, tell the administrators to whip those students into shape, that'll bring them around.

Certainly won't have any blowback in the least.

[–] unreasonabro 32 points 7 months ago

We need to just, like, cancel money. Fuck these twats and their useless ignorant influence. How dare you put education on the line to defend genocide

garbage human

[–] Chocrates 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No idea who he is but good for him. If more of the aristocracy announce themselves we will know who to not give a fuck about.

[–] jeffw 8 points 7 months ago

No idea how he got rich, but he owns the NE Patriots (US) football team

[–] NeptuneOrbit 22 points 7 months ago

Schools are taking people's free speech! Wait, I'm not donating to schools until they do it more! But to those I dislike!

[–] reddig33 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No relation to Kraft/Heinz, so continue to enjoy your boxed mac n cheese.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kraft

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

I will continue to not watch football o7

[–] ghostdoggtv 21 points 7 months ago

Uncomfortable billionaire is at least a step in the right direction

[–] njm1314 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He's pulling support from the school that's cracking down so heavily and violently on the protests? What's he for I'm having trouble understanding the logic here.

[–] taanegl 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's easy. He wants more pressure, more punishment, also it's a good excuse to get out now since colleges are doomed in the US due to reasons.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] taanegl 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, the massive loan fraud situation, corporate poatching of talent and patents, the fact that most collages are run by a bunch of greedy, nepotistic fucks, whose concern for acedemia begins and ends with football teams.

The slow moving enshitification has been going on for years, and soon people who want to be taken seriously in the market place will either avoid US collages altogether or go to foreign collages.

Uni's will be fine, but collages? Without management reform, we'll be seeing a downward curve regarding their legitimacy - from an academic point of view, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Privatize everything free market capitalists have been chipping away at K-12 for some time now. Charter ~~factories~~ Schools are primo examples of divide and conquer public education.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah he is sad they aren't going harder on them

Kraft echoed the sentiment in a statement issued through an organization he founded called the Foundation to Combat Antisemitism. “I am deeply saddened at the virulent hate that continues to grow on campus and throughout our country,” he wrote. “I am no longer confident that Columbia can protect its students and staff and I am not comfortable supporting the university until corrective action is taken.”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There's something inherently creepy about a guy who isn't Jewish starting up a foundation called "Combat Antisemitism" and then lean really, really hard on the "Combat" part without seeming to give much of a shit about the Antisemitism part.

I get strong "Can't wait for Israel to be obliterated by war and bring on the Second Coming!" vibes from this.

Incidentally: https://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2024/04/23/gaza-solidarity-encampment-approaches-one-week-mark-on-south-lawn/

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Kraft echoed the sentiment in a statement issued through an organization he founded called the Foundation to Combat Antisemitism. “I am deeply saddened at the virulent hate that continues to grow on campus and throughout our country,” he wrote. “I am no longer confident that Columbia can protect its students and staff and I am not comfortable supporting the university until corrective action is taken.”

So beat down the protests harder or you don't get money? That's his argument?

[–] cosmicrookie 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It should be prohibited for schools, hospitals and politics to depend on investors

[–] jeffw 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well, it’s not an investor, just a donor. Almost all universities and colleges are non-profits, so they do not have investors.

[–] cosmicrookie 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I dont really care what they are called. They donate not as charity but to get something in return. It can be promotion, goodwill, influence, access to top picks etc. That is IMO investing

[–] jeffw 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Sure, I get what you mean. But how do you stop that in any non-profit? It could be a local community organization that buys books for kids, then some rich guy donates a shit ton of specific books. You can't stop people from donating, yknow?

(edit: for the record, I was the upvote on that last comment, not the downvote. not trying to make this a fight)

[–] FuglyDuck 4 points 7 months ago

Actually, you can tell people “no thank you”… to go with your example, if the books donated were Mein Kampf or something like that.

[–] cosmicrookie 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I am not arguing against donations. My point is them being depended on them. Some places it is free to go to university, college etc. medical care. Other places it costs a fee. There is no reason for them to become dependent on donations especially politicians

Also who cares about up/down votes!?

[–] jeffw 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not saying I care about the votes. Just saying I don’t downvote people in a discussion (unless they are engaging in bad faith/trolling), since I noticed someone had downvoted your comment almost immediately.

That being said, even in some countries with excellent health care standards, organizations depend on outside donations. I imagine a similar thing happens in education but I can’t say for sure, since it isn’t my field.

Although, just for the sake of playing devil’s advocate, any system dependent on govt funding could be corrupted by the govt’s agenda, just like a donor could shape a nonprofit.

[–] cosmicrookie 2 points 7 months ago

I agree, that they are, but argue that they shouldn't

[–] UnderpantsWeevil -2 points 7 months ago

Almost all universities and colleges are non-profits

That's more a tax-dodge gambit than a reflection of their business policies.

[–] conquer4 12 points 7 months ago

So he's pulling support from the school, effectively he supports the protesters and staff who walked and not the school who is trying to make them go away. I don't care about his mouth words, his actions matter more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago
[–] mycathas9lives 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So he will stop donating. Funding is not what he is doing. The school is funded without this schmuck.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 7 months ago

Columbia has a $13.6B endowment, which has consistently grown at 8-10% annually.

Kraft has historically donated in the $5M range annually. So, less than 1% of what the university earns on a portfolio whose principle never gets touched.

[–] Linkerbaan 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm pulling my funding from Kraft goods

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was very confused about that headline until I realized they meant Columbia University, not Columbia the country in South America.

[–] phoneymouse 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s spelled Colombia. But, yes it is confusing because Colombia also has joined the ICC case against Israel with South Africa.

[–] Argonne -1 points 7 months ago

It's interesting you bring up the ICC because they ruled Israel is not commiting a Genocide

[–] randon31415 4 points 7 months ago

... Palestinians? I thought they were protesting Gustavo Petro's reforms.

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