Kennedy also got us into Vietnam. Just saying.
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Here are Clinton's claimed achievements. It's a lot more than "the deficit". There's a reason why he was reelected:
https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html
Clinton ushered in the era of the neoliberal democrats, after a series of genuinely good ones like JFK and Carter, and ones like LBJ that might have been murderers abroad but at least were aggressively progressive at home. (I know, JFK killed a bunch of people too)
I'm not saying Clinton was bad necessarily; he was certainly better than more Republicans, but he wasn't a mostly affirmatively good thing like Obama or Biden have been. The pre-internet picture of the world that most voters had was radically more conservative than today's view (in a way that's honestly hard to remember now that non-establishment news is a normal thing). I think as a result of that blinkered view, candidates too far on the left were just getting their ass kicked in the election over and over again, so maybe it was the right thing for him to do to move to the right. But even some of the stuff on that list of achievements is sinister neoliberal shenanigans (more police, less people on welfare after welfare-to-work, etc). Income at the top went up, but income inequality continued to skyrocket under Clinton's economic policies pretty much exactly as it had under Reagan's.
And yet people's lives haven't improved much, if at all, in quite some time. The war machine is also still marching forward; we spend billions on things that don't actually improve the lives of the average person. Both sides of the aisle are bought and you can't just ignore that. With all of that said, I'm still voting for Biden, but only because I'm forced to due to how unbelievably fucked our system is.
Ok but this is not balanced because you didn't list all the great things Trump has in store:
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The definitive end of democracy
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ww3
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all money that's left goes to billionaires
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hopefully the end of humanity
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Nobody left to incriminate him with anything
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huge wins
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nobody has ever seen wins such as this
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anybody? Hello?
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You forgot:
Johnson: Eliminate Poverty
Nixon: Burglary and coverup
Ford: Swine Flu vaccination
Carter: Egypt/Israel peace agreement
Even though I agree with the sentiment, and being a very extreme leftist myself, this is cartoonishly lopsided.
This will not convince anyone. Have fun preaching to the choir I guess, it is a pointless endeavor 🤷🏻♀️
If we want to turn people away from them, it will take more than pointing out that they’re evil, however true it may be. (And don’t misunderstand me, it is very true)
Why isn't the Peace Corps a good thing JFK did and why is only one Bush listed?
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Bush and Bush Jr both fed the war machine