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[-] Zachariah 201 points 1 month ago

But this way third parties can get their cut.

[-] [email protected] 99 points 1 month ago

Taxes have that feature too, sadly. No system is perfect.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Well, I guess it is fair for someone that manages those resources full time to get their payment for their management labour from those pool of resources no? The implementation is what must be very strictly looked out for and be as transparent as possible. It is why we have created a country along with its governmental system. Now, whether ANY currently implemented system is perfect or not is another debate.

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[-] sudo42 13 points 1 month ago

Every new business model now is just insinuating themselves into an existing structure so they can grift/leech money out for themselves. They call it “innovation “.

[-] affiliate 11 points 1 month ago

they finally found a way to add a built in service fee to taxes. i just hope this new model is compatible with turbo tax premium

[-] [email protected] 121 points 1 month ago

Neighbors helping neighbors? A collective group pooling resources in order to get social benefits? Community organizations? This all smells like dirty communism.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago

HOAs typically end up fascist, though.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
[-] ours 13 points 1 month ago

Home Owner Association

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[-] NeptuneOrbit 102 points 1 month ago

*HOAs which reinvented taxes

[-] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago

HOA's reinvented municipal government in a way that let them be racist again.

[-] Omgpwnies 16 points 1 month ago
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[-] TropicalDingdong 39 points 1 month ago

So its taxes all the way down...

[-] lawrence 45 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 91 points 1 month ago

Sure, but this time they can be sure their money goes to themselves instead of those pesky vulnerable sections of society.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

This is the correct answer. I'm sure Repubs are somewhat willing to contribute to improving a group as long as they personally benefit from every contribution.

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[-] dejected_warp_core 84 points 1 month ago

This is basically just as opaque as a charity or HOA, with different steps. Which is great unless your community is poor.

My contention with this concept is that with taxes, I can vote for people that manage both the money gathering rules and how it is spent. That and the money typically works in a much larger pool spread across a wide range of socioeconomic groups, which can vastly improve its reach and capability. On top of all that, it's also transparent. My guess is this has no such features.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends 49 points 1 month ago

I lived and worked in a lot of poor communities and neighborhoods.

We have to organize our own clean ups, our own neighborhood watch, our own events.

Richer neighborhoods get a lot more resources from the city.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right, that's the whole point of HOAs. They do all the same shit local government does, but without needing to share with the poors. They should be illegal.

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[-] ripcord 25 points 1 month ago

I was watching a thing not too long ago where a dude was praising the "safety net" of home and health insurance and almost in the next breath complaining how socialized medicine was a scam and welfare

I was like "MF you JUST said you wanted a group safety net"

[-] Theharpyeagle 23 points 1 month ago

But they unironically would rather spend more on insurance than risk having any of their money go to the poors.

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[-] FlyingSquid 19 points 1 month ago

They want a group safety net for the in-group they are a part of.

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[-] jg1i 49 points 1 month ago

First I thought this was dumb, but actually... It doesn't seem like taxes really get distributed to everyone. I live in a poor neighborhood and our streets are all jacked up, but somehow the rich neighborhoods always have nice streets. Am I paying taxes so the rich people get nicer streets? How do I get the city to fix our roads too?

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

our streets are all jacked up

Not that it'll really help your situation, but you should look into whether or not your state's Department of Transportation (DOT) has some sort of reporting tool online.

Mine does, and I've used it to report several issues, including several potholes on my neighborhood road. The potholes were filled within a week after I reported it.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Am I paying taxes so the rich people get nicer streets?

Yes, you are.

[-] RGB3x3 12 points 1 month ago

But the takeaway is not to get rid of taxes. The solution is to properly distribute tax funds across all areas, rather than funnel money to the top.

We don't have enough systems in place to prevent the rich from taking more than their fair share.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

But I don't think this startup would help. The poor neighborhoods would still have less to invest. Privatizing taxes would just make the poorer neighborhoods worse and the richer neighborhoods nicer.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Am I paying taxes so the rich people get nicer streets?

Yes, unironically.

How do I get the city to fix our roads too?

By being rich, or having rich friends, or managing to gather a lot of people (50+) at the front of your politicians' offices (or their homes for extra effect) and make the demand

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[-] EdibleFriend 45 points 1 month ago

Yes we've had taxes but what about second taxes

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

At least there's hope the money is not used to bomb schools in middle east

[-] FlyingSquid 27 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of Israeli companies operating in America...

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Okay fair. There's a non-zero chance the money won't be used to bomb schools in middle east

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Funny meme, silly rage bait title.

[-] FlyingSquid 22 points 1 month ago

Welcome to A Boring Dystopia. First time?

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

It's the Libertarian® Paradise™

[-] TexasDrunk 18 points 1 month ago

There was a commenter the other day (I wish I could remember who) that said something along the lines of libertarians regularly reinvent things we already have.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_ 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but these "taxes" get used on their stuff, and none of those other people get any of that money.

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[-] capital 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone’s commenting like they don’t know this is voluntary, unlike taxes.

Agree or disagree, at least understand your opponent’s actual position rather than fighting a straw man.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40553334/this-startup-lets-neighbors-pool-their-money-to-invest-in-their-communities

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Why does a startup let people do this? Were people not able to do this before and now with a start up suddenly they can? How much does the start up get?

[-] ThePyroPython 11 points 1 month ago

No, tech bros discover co-operative banking.

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[-] randon31415 10 points 1 month ago

Every politcian: So how do we funnel this money to kill foreigners while profiting by taking kickbacks from weapon manufacturers?

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