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It’s one message for MAGA-land and the opposite one for Jill Stein voters. And they just might get away with it.

Steve Bannon no doubt thought he was being deviously clever. Speaking with The New York Times this week, he elaborated on a sophisticated plan that Donald Trump’s allies have developed for boosting third-party candidates, so they siphon votes from President Biden.

A key part of this scheme, Bannon noted, entails boosting expected Green Party candidate Jill Stein by highlighting oil production under Biden to pull environmentally concerned voters away from him. As Bannon put it:

No Republican knows that oil production under Biden is higher than ever. But Jill Stein’s people do. … Stein is furious about the oil drilling. The college kids are furious about it. The more exposure these [third-party candidates] get, the better it is for us.

Whoa, that’s some serious 11-dimensional chess, Steve! Except for one thing. If you think for a second about Bannon’s quote—that “oil production under Biden is higher than ever”—it entirely undermines one of Trump’s biggest lies: the claim that Biden’s effort to transition the United States to a decarbonized economy has destroyed the nation’s “energy independence,” leaving us weak and hollow to our very core.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think he cares...they're doing the Russia thing where they just flood the zone with info and disinfo to make it difficult to discern reality.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sure a lot of these people have taken seminars in Moscow on how to do just this. Paid for by Putin, of course. Travel expenses and nice dinners included. Gift basket and duffle bags of money on the way home.

[–] thesystemisdown 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL 4 points 7 months ago

russian stooges fly to moscow on the 4th of July.

It's like the swallows to Capistrano.

[–] crypticthree 41 points 7 months ago

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Jean Paul Sartre

[–] eran_morad 17 points 7 months ago

Bruh. They all know it’s horseshit. They just willingly deceive themselves. And that ain’t gonna change.

[–] Sanctus 10 points 7 months ago

A lot if comments here using reason. Don't expect reason and logic to start working now. These people already say they defend life while doing things that cause more mothers and babies to die, its factually proven. If they cared about fax and logik, we wouldn't be here in the first place.

They don't care.
They won't learn.
Sit back and watch the world burn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A key part of this scheme, Bannon noted, entails boosting expected Green Party candidate Jill Stein by highlighting oil production under Biden to pull environmentally concerned voters away from him.

While Trump is literally saying "drill drill drill." Yeah, that tracks.