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[–] naticus 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hilariously, I bet it's because their Active Directory domain is the same as their public domain, and it becomes a massive pain in the ass to hostname the root domain. Yes, externally you can do it just fine, but then it's not consistent internally on their private network.

One solution is you run IIS (or any other web server) purely as a permanent redirect for the internal host, but it would then need to run on each domain controller which brings its own set of issues.

[–] SpaceNoodle 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] naticus 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lol oh I never said it's a good solution. The worst part isn't running IIS, it's running IIS on a domain controller. The better option is using a different domain for AD than your web domain, as long as it's a publicly registered domain for certificate purposes.

[–] reddig33 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is the DMV a .com or a .gov? Because it should be a dot gov — but Texas has stupidly put some of their government websites on dot coms.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's almost as if TLDs are completely arbitrary.

This is anarchy!

[–] reddig33 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s almost as if ICANN doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing anymore!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

The secret is ICANN never has known what the fuck they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago
[–] zerosignal 13 points 7 months ago

My state has dot org for some agencies, dot gov for some, and dot state dot (state) dot us.

[–] Pappabosley 6 points 7 months ago

They probably change them to .com as they privatize them

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 4 points 7 months ago

TXDMV.GOV

It opens on my cell phone, but my desktop gives me a static image with no links.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

When I try going to txdmv.gov, I don't get the same server, but I do go to a machine that http-redirects my browser to www.txdmv.gov.

$ wget http://txdmv.gov/
--2024-04-10 17:01:26--  http://txdmv.gov/
Resolving txdmv.gov (txdmv.gov)... 168.44.227.138
Connecting to txdmv.gov (txdmv.gov)|168.44.227.138|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: https://www.txdmv.gov [following]
--2024-04-10 17:01:26--  https://www.txdmv.gov/
Resolving www.txdmv.gov (www.txdmv.gov)... 3.222.136.66, 18.234.22.91
Connecting to www.txdmv.gov (www.txdmv.gov)|3.222.136.66|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html’

index.html              [  <=>              ] 203.91K   986KB/s    in 0.2s    

2024-04-10 17:01:27 (986 KB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [208802]
$

EDIT: Ah, apparently it redirects http://txdmv.gov/, but not https://txdmv.gov/.

considers

Based on @[email protected]'s comment, maybe some browsers interpret a bare hostname without protocol specifier as an http address, and some as an https address.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 4 points 7 months ago

Holy shit. This is really good to know... Thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

maybe some browsers interpret a bare hostname without protocol specifier as an http address, and some as an https address.

And if you have a browser that does the former I would suggest finding a better one soon. The internet is moving away from unencrypted HTTP, a browser that doesn't default to HTTPS nowadays is pretty strange.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

While I do mostly agree with your statement, it's incredibly annoying when I type in a local IP for my router or server and it automatically gets turned into https.

[–] malloc 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

huh? I just entered txdmv.gov and it worked just fine. It redirected to www. but otherwise not required from end user

Edit: on mobile it’s broken … (txdmv.gov does not redirect. Only loads a banner. Have to type www.txdmv.gov)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm on mobile browsing on Firefox and it redirected fine to the full site

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It redirects me to the https site too, but https://txdmv.gov shows a different site than https://www.txdmv.gov? Lol, what is going on.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 2 points 7 months ago

This is great... lol. It redirects me on mobile but not desktop...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My favorite is sometimes when I'm on hold the announcements tell you to visit their website for faster service (would if I could have!). It reads out the URL to you like "double-you double-you double-you dot this stupid company dot com. Again, that's double-you double-you double-you dot this stupid company dot com"

And if you actually type the "www", you get redirected to the base domain without it.

[–] orclev 16 points 7 months ago

In the early days of the internet that was actually the correct way to do things. Websites were supposed to be hosted at the www subdomain, while other content was supposed to go to places like ftp.whatever.com. Technically they should redirect thisstupidcompany.com to www.thisstupidcompany.com not the other way around. All that said though that concept has kind of fallen by the wayside as it became increasingly apparent that most hosts exist primarily to host websites with other uses as secondary so it became the norm to just assume the www when navigating to the root domain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember listening to radio commercials in the early days where it was:

Aitch-tee-tee-pee colon, forward slash, forward slash, double-you, double-you, double-you, dot nameofthecompany dot com, forward slash, tilde - you know, that squiggly line on the key to the left of the number one on your keyboard, you have to press shift for it - and then the word 'customer'.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Painful, formerly repressed memory unlocked. Uh, thanks? lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I do what I can.

[–] Lifecoach5000 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

double-you double-you double-you dot this stupid company dot com. Again, that's double-you double-you double-you dot _this stupid company_ dot com

This made me laugh way too hard for some reason lol

[–] TrickDacy 1 points 7 months ago

It's too damn accurate lol

[–] markstos 3 points 7 months ago

But it’s the last www site left, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you find the relevant department and start harassing them on Twitter and other socials at least once a day they will eventually fix it. This has happened before with other departments and security issues. My record is eight days.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 3 points 7 months ago

Thankfully I don't live there, so it's only my problem once.