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[–] Linkerbaan 86 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The guy already stopped by himself and they decided to smash him into the trophy

Counter-Strike skin betting platform CSGOEmpire has claimed responsibility for the stunt. "Some of our men are on the ground in handcuffs," wrote CSGOEmpire founder Monarch on X after the incident. "But we fucking did it, boys."

Why do skin betting sites claim responsibility for stupid stunts as if they're doing terrorist attacks

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Stupid stunt notwithstanding, the Counter Strike game is about terrorists vs. counter-terrorists so it's at least thematically on point?

[–] Linkerbaan 14 points 8 months ago

So is this a T win?

Rush B no stop always works.

[–] CrowAirbrush 4 points 8 months ago

It also creates media attention, which is a plus i'm guessing.

[–] pendulum_ 62 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oof, and the organiser of this stunt isn't just doubling down, or tripling down, he's quadrupling down on it.

What an idiotic hill to die on

[–] malloc 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Negative attention is PR, never the less. It will drag on in courts. Probably pay a small fine but the $$$ from publicity stunt to outweigh court fine

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

According to Danish law they are risking 6 months of jail time (or 6 years under "particularly aggravating circumstances" but I don't think that's relevant), so not just money. The destroyed trophy, even though they weren't directly aiming for it, a good lawyer might go after them on grounds of vandalism which is up to 1 year and 6 months under normal circumstances (disclaimer: I havent't seen the video).

So far I don't think there's much precedence on it so it is hard to predict the outcome. Usually you wouldn't get the highest punishment for a first offence, so if it is jail time I'd be surprised if it's more than a month. But a jail punishment will haunt your criminal record for 5 years while a fine will stay with you for 2 years, which is actually the the worst part if you have anything but a low-level job in Denmark.

[–] LethargyTheGhost 4 points 8 months ago

This hasn't always been the case, valve has taken action before to ruin gambling sites and the attention could negatively affect them

[–] essteeyou 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Here's a video of it. I couldn't see anything on the linked website.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

The guy that tackled him into the trophy will remember that for the rest of his life. Ouch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

That hot-headed old guy in the leather jacket is the reason.

[–] acosmichippo 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

what in the ever living fuck is a skin gambling site, and why do they have beef.

[–] Lanusensei87 41 points 8 months ago

CS is awash with gambling websites that let you bet on the outcome of a match and potentially win some weapon skins. As for the reasons for the stunt, it's explained in the article.

[–] malloc 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The response time to that “rush” was god awful. This is what happens when you pick the bottom of the barrel security agency to do event sec work

[–] Delphia 39 points 8 months ago

The problem with event sec (and I ran large events for a decade) is that organisers often dont treat you like you're anything but a bunch of fuckwits and dont tell you anything about planned stunts or anything beyond "Dont let anyone past this point without a pass" asking questions and wanting to be in the loop often gets you told to "do your job" which is why I was very anal retentive about what was and wasnt our responsibility in our contracts and what we were/werent liable for. Often the "talent" or people attending will decide they want to do something off script and you have to take a moment to decide wether or not to crash tackle someone somewhere they shouldnt be who might also be a keynote speaker or the headlining artists manager... its almost always a shitshow of not enough info. I have a lovely story about a bass player for a band not wearing a lanyard and starting a fight with two of the security when they wouldnt let him back stage... theres an NDA involved though because he broke one staff members cheekbone before getting knocked the fuck out.

The absolutely idiotic part was taking him to the ground, that outnumbered and not being aggressive it was unnecessary. Once it goes to the ground it almost always turns into a shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everything about this is stupid, but breaking the trophy isn't his fault. They knocked him over in a way that made him hit the trophy stand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Then who is at fault? Security? For doing their job? They wouldn't be on stage if he hadn't broken the rules. It wasn't over-use of force, from the looks of things, just unfortunate placement.

Saying the resulting damages aren't his fault is like forgiving the person who caused a pile-up for driving reckless.

[–] Patquip 9 points 8 months ago

The security guy who pulled him down towards the trophy sure seemed to cause the trophy to get knocked over though. The stagerusher was pretty far away before that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yes, the trophy was security's fault because it was from excessive force. He was already restrained! I'm not saying the guy wasn't in the wrong for climbing on stage, but people climb on stages all the time without security breaking the centerpiece of the event while apprehending them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

You sound so very american lol.

[–] ExcursionInversion 9 points 8 months ago