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Jake did not consent. Take her to jail.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2024
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Not sure the angle here.
Yes potentially there was "mutual rape" or whatever you want to call it.
The point of the poster is that a) rape charges against men are often prosecuted, b) going to parties to find "easy women" who are to drink to legally consent, even if you are also at the same level of drunkeness, isn't a great idea.
If the poster is sexist, it's mostly just trying to market to its audience and the legal realities.
This is a poster trying to get 18 year olds to moderate and consider their behavior, not be a treatise on law or gender studies.
See: MRAs failing to understand how this kind of "reverse sexism" is really just the same patriarchy that feminists describe, and that basically every "gotcha" example is really just an example of patriarchy hurting men... In exactly the way feminists have been describing for decades.
I'm kinda curious. What if it was Jake with Jim, and Josie with Jill? Do both Jake and Jim get prosecuted for mutual rape, and neither Josie nor Jill do, or is it the reverse? Do neither of the men get prosecuted because men always want sex? Do neither of the women get prosecuted because women can't commit rape? This is all so confusing.
As an aside, I[M] had a woman try to get me to go home with her at a club a few years back. She had obviously been drinking. I declined, both because she had been drinking, and also because I'm not really into hook-ups. (A date to get to know her? Sure. A one night stand? No.) But I have to wonder - maybe she really, really wanted to get laid, but was nervous about hitting on men and possibly being rejected, and used alcohol as a way of being less rejection-sensitive? Shit's weird.
Dunno. But it's not worth the risks. If she really wanted, why not go on a date after sobering up?
What if Josie is a femboy with a massive throbbing cock and she busted a nut in my throat 🥵
who let the horni out?
Seems like we have an escapee from the horny jail
No. Maybe a bit sexist but not incorrect.
TIL your 20s are a series of sexual assaults.
Wait until a couple of years pass and you realize how many things that happened were really not ok and actually quite scary.
Sure my 20s were ~~scary~~ risky in retrospect, but not related to any sex being had. I guess I can't speak for everyone, though.
why shouldn't this logic apply both ways then?
Under patriarchy, men are the only ones seen as having agency so they are assumed to always be the aggressor. The assumption is true, even when the reality is not. At the same time, men are socialized to ignore boundaries meaning that most of the time they will be the aggressor, reinforcing the assumption and justifying the application of laws that align with that assumption.
Men will always be the abusers and never the abused. Men will never be seen as the care givers, even when they are the actual care givers. Men will always be the rapist, never the victim. And, because society tells men these things, we often enact them against our own interests.
The fact that this logic doesn't make sense is something feminists have been calling out for a long time as part of the larger system of patriarchy. While patriarchy usually gives more power to men, it doesn't always. But even when it does seem to benefit men, it still harms men... Just like how every other system of oppression harms everyone involved, not just the oppressed.
so what is your point?
The logic should apply both ways, but it can't because patriarchy prevents it. Meanwhile, people who don't have a critique of patriarchy can't really explain why this is the case. They simply point to it and say, "this is unfair and it hurts men," without having enough context to actually fix the underlying problem.
Have you studied history? If you had, you'd know that what we have now can be called such only if you're the activist trying to push very certain agenda in very aggresive way. Women nowadays have the same opportunities as men. You can't achieve something in your life? Congratulations, everyone has the objectives they can't accomplish. Everyone have faced lots of shit including sexism and/or discrimination. Unfortunately, it is as it is not due any separate group of people, assholes could be found anywhere. You and me both most certainly were assholes in someone's eyes too.
You're a feminist? That's nice, there are still lots of work to be done, like correcting the upbringing methodology, both for men and women. Just don't forget, you're doing this to achieve the equality, not to overthrow the balance, because by doing so you'll cause the opposing side to greatly overreact, and in that case lots of progress would be undone. Don't fuck it up please.
Oh, you aren't looking for an answer because you're an idiot. Go on with your life then.
It should, but under the US legal system, it doesn't.
So women can actually not give legal consent when drunk in the US?
Some people say so. The real issues are 1, people who don't care if the other person consents (actual rape) and 2, people, mainly young women, who regret it the next day and think they can revoke consent after the fact (not rape).. and the biggest issue with those is figuring out which one actually happened since both are unfortunately a thing. If they don't do enough for column 1 that's bad, but when they go too far for column 2 that's also bad.. it's a mess.
Josie couldn't consent. Jake couldn't consent. But THE LORD COULD!
Your honor, did you remember to ask Him?
"Wait WHAT DID SHE??? I did not consent! Just because the consumption of alcohol does erect my penis does NOT mean it is consensual! She used me for my semen!
There's only one reason to post this, and it's not a pretty one.
To make fun of the double standard in a poorly thought out poster?
I can think of 5. So enlighten me.
They go to jail