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My current issue is i see you guys constantly having issues, editing files etc.

Is it not stable?

Can you not set it up and then not have ongoing issues?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

it's been awhile since i dove into Linux, but last time i dabbled i was liking Kubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As already stated why would there be a bunch of posts of people bragging about their uptime and stability? Would be pretty boring no? Why are you wanting to make the switch and what are your needs?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Leas about needs, more about taking back control of mt personal electronics

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Leas about needs, more about taking back control of mt personal electronics

That makes you a good candidate; it means you are motivated. Expect to learn new things. Expect that sometimes you are going to blame something on Linux when it's really your own ignorance. Expect that sometimes, it might be the fault of Linux, or might be the fault of the distro you chose, etc.

Some very fundamental things work differently. Go to a forum or community that is specific to the distro you choose and ask them about the proper way to install software and "package management." Understanding that one topic, and the nuance of how your chosen distro expects you to manage software, will stave off a great many of the problems you are likely to have as a noobie.

If considering this a learning experience sounds good to you, you will succeed. Don't try to "learn Linux" - try to learn what you need to in order to achieve individual tasks on your system, or solve minor annoyances. Doing that will pull in a lot of context. Linux forums are great, but forums specific to the distro you choose will almost always be superior during the learning phase.

In this very thread I see comments from folks who likely expected it to work just like Windows with different trappings. Don't expect that, because it's not what you are going to get. Consider it an adventure.

Source: Tried Linux and gave up in 1999. Tried Linux and gave up in 2004. Tried Linux and stuck with it in 2007. Have not touched Windows except when paid to do so since then, and each and every year since then has made it clearer and clearer what a good decision that was.

I support Windows for my job, and have done so for over twenty years. I find Linux easier to use in every way, and more reliable, and I don't have to force it to respect my authority as the owner of the system it runs on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You're welcome!

[–] gaael 2 points 8 months ago

Yes you can.
I spend a lot od time fixing things that I broke because I like it and it's a hobby for me.

I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition on my SO's laptop last year (old thinkpad t470) and I haven't had to do anything about it since then. The installation process was easy, I didn't bother changing the defaults and just clicked "Next" on most of the steps.

Can you share with us the hardware you'll be using ? In most cases it'll be easy peasy, but some stuff is known to cause issues that we might be able to identify before you start your journey.

[–] filister 2 points 8 months ago

Depends on your use case. Most of the people running Linux I think are the kind that want to experiment and try different stuff, opposite to the regular user of Windows. And you know when you do changes chances are something to break much higher.

If you install some user friendly and stable distro, VSCode, browser, word editor and you never touch the terminal or do any changes it will be solid and stable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I use Ubuntu for everything I do (except building and testing windows binaries) beside upgrading when it asks me to I never really have to worry about anything, everything I use just works and the ui is fine.

I'm not a big gamer and I only really use open source software so I don't know if you'll want to do things I don't but I do pretty much everything else: image editing, video editing, CAD, coding, all sorts of weird internet stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My current issue is i see you guys constantly having issues, editing files etc.

These guy cannot self-develop

They never learn thing themselves. Never read books. Never read manual pages.

Just ignore them.

Is it not stable?

Commits to softwares around Linux (userland, system maintenance tools, etc) usually just works (even if alpha). There are few bugs.

Alpine Linux edge+testing is much stable (my only issue come from testing mesa packages, just don't upgrade this package to any version without -r0 or -r1 or like that :) )

Can you not set it up and then not have ongoing issues?

Yes.

A system that never have to su root (except for shutdown, reboot).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I have linux distros that i like and work for me, i almost never have issues. I think it depends on hardware, and i think a lot of the issues are just people trying to do things as they used to on windows and things just work a bit different

[–] shikitohno 2 points 8 months ago

Even running Arch for the last decade or so, I largely don't have issues that wind up being any more complicated than downgrading a package every so often. Most of my config editing occur in one of three situations. First and most common, initial setup of a program to telling it where to find any files it needs and change any default settings I have a different preference on. Second, it's a program I use constantly and want to tweak it to work just so, adding to it as I discover new features that catch my interest, like tweaking my ncmpcpp and tmux setups. The last case is procrastination, where I get obsessively focused on something because, clearly, the reason I haven't written my 5 page paper due tomorrow has nothing to do with the fact I've been screwing around and not keeping up with my coursework for the last week, and can instead be squarely attributed to the fact that I have discovered some aspect of my emacs setep that needs to be refined, like realizing I dislike how biber formats my references in Auctex and needing to spend hours finetuning my reference style to m' exact preferences.

For most general use cases, like browsing the web, listening to music, watching movies and maybe firing up a word processor, this is entirely unnecessary. To give an example, I got tired of having to periodically spend a night purging my elderly mother's laptop of myriad viruses and uninstalling the dozen or so IE toolbar she kept infecting her system with. Clearly not a techy person. I put Linux mint on it, changed the desktop shortcut for Firefox to the Internet Explorer icon, ditto for Open Office's word processor with Ms Word, and she was happy as could be without really noticing a difference. I would just remote in and periodically update it. Worked fine for her until she got a new new computer, by which point she'd realized she could, in fact, live without all that malware taking up half her screen in IE.

[–] danielfgom 2 points 8 months ago

I don't know who these people having issues are but I run Linux Mint Debian Edition and have no issues editing my stuff.

The only issue I can imagine is if they had formatted an external HDD with ext4 and and copied docs from a previous Linux install, and now when they copy it to their new install, they don't have permission to edit the doc.

For example, you try out Ubuntu for a few weeks/months. You format your ext HDD in ext4 and create docs in Ubuntu. You then copy those into the HDD. Or maybe you had another drive formatted with NTFS and copied docs from there onto the ext4 drive.

After a few weeks you erase Ubuntu from your machine and install Arch. Now when you try to edit a doc on the HDD or copy it to your machine, you find you don't have permission because those permissions were set on your previous Ubuntu install.

I've had permission issues with that hence I format my ex HDD with exFAT and it works perfectly. Also works perfectly with Windows and macOS as they can all read/write to exFAT without permission issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For a reasonably stable but updated os I would recommend FreeBSD. You only have to install X yourself, and linux guides doesn't work. But reading manual page and searching on mailing lists can solve every issue. OpenBSD is easier but it is a bit "slow" in performance, packages are not updated (you have to follow -current, the latest development branch).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Make it an alternative OS before erasing your existing OS so you can switch back and forth and use the old one to research when something unexpected happens on your new one. This way you can transition slowly. Expect there to be challenges, but also expect to learn a lot. It's a fantastic platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Linux has distributions. Think of it as windows preconfigured for different target groups or by different groups. They all have different goals and ideals. There are stable distributions like Debian and distros built on top of that or unstable ones like Arch and Gentoo + all the distros built on top of that.

Each have trade offs. Many stable distributions don't get all the newest software or features because in order to be stable, everything has to be tested. (No software is bug free anybody who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about). Some stable distributions do have new software and features but are very difficult to configure or set up.
There are unstable distributions that get "bleeding edge" software and features, meaning as soon as they are released they are available very quickly thereafter. Things are bound to go wrong more often here and the system can break in unexpected ways that require more knowledge to fix.

If you want a stable system, don't use an unstable distro unless you know what you're doing.

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