Imagine not voting to support Ukraine because of, get this, Israel. Weird fucking world.
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Under normal circumstances, sure. But when the support is specifically for weapons being used to massacre women and children in Gaza, then it becomes tough to swallow.
ReQs: We want everything!
Dems: fine, here’s everything. Now let’s support Ukraine.
ReQs: . . . No! I don’t want it now!
Why is it that that aid for different countries and different causes, with different political interests, are all bundled into the same bill? Why can't aid for each destination have its own individual bill? I've never seen any media present this question nor make any attempt at explaining why.
To increase support obviously. The theory is that GOP representatives will vote for this bill saying they helped Israel, whereas Dems can say they are helping Ukraine (of course there are also local issues in e.g. districts with many Jewish voters). The 2-party system in combination with local representation means that bundling bills is the only way to ever pass anything.
bundling bills is the only way to ever pass anything
That seems like a bit of a stretch. There seems to be very strong cross-party support for Ukraine aid. I don't see why that wouldn't pass in its own individual bill.
Yeah I'm sure the past several months of the Republicans refusing to support aid to Ukraine shows their strong support for sending aid to Ukraine.
This is being done in this Mannar because Republicans refuse to aid Ukraine without some kind of kickback
Watch it with that lizard people thing around anything involving Jews.
It is one of those old Jewish myths.
If I could find where someone explained it, I would link it, but I really don’t care enough to look, might even be wrong, just thought I would give the heads up
Update 2024-03-21: 188 House members have now signed the Democratic petition that mirrors the Senate aid bill that was passed months ago.
The first Republican to sign the petition, Ken Buck signed today, but he's retiring from Congress the next day, Friday 3/22
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Democrats are using a rarely successful legislative maneuver called a discharge petition to try to bypass Republican leaders.
Democrats, who hold 213 seats in the lower chamber, would need Republicans to sign the petition because they are likely to lose the support of progressives over the inclusion of Israel aid.
"What we're asking our colleagues — Democrats and Republicans — is to sign the discharge petition that will bring to the floor the Senate national security bipartisan supplemental.
That is the fastest and easiest way to solve this issue," House Democratic Caucus Chairman Pete Aguilar of California said Tuesday during his weekly news conference.
But the Democrats' discharge petition faces a competing effort from Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, a Republican from Pennsylvania who co-chairs the moderate and bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus.
Fitzpatrick has introduced a smaller bipartisan foreign aid bill that includes border security measures.
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