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Is SteamOS a future default for handhelds? (e3f49eaa46b57.cdn.sohucs.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Given many new handhelds coming on the scene and general disinterest of Microsoft to support the market, do you think SteamOS will take place of default OS the same way Android did on phones some time ago?

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[–] BeezKnuts 2 points 1 year ago

I hope so, but only if the option to install other OS's remains an easy option. I love android but installing a different operating system on my phone is so much of a pain in the dick that it's not even worth it.

I feel like I'd probably avoid a handheld if the option to install windows wasn't there, even if I don't end up using it much.

If my choice was a default windows install with the option to install steamOS myself, or a default steamOS install with no other options, I'm choosing the windows install every time.

[–] Zpiritual 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looking at how many celebrated ROG Ally shipping with windows I doubt it will catch on. Only possibility I see is if valve would do profit sharing with the handheld maker for purchases made in the steam store.

For a third party to ship with steam os now would essentially mean they are also supporting the largest player in the market with no gain for themselves.

[–] Meist 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, Steam doesn't support arm. So my hacked Switch runs cobbled together emulationstation + xfce + antimicrox + onboard. I don't like Horizon OS and only SuperTuxKart works flawlessly on Android for me. In SuperTux, the sound desyncs from the game. Minetest doesn't support gamepads, and I couldn't find any Android alternative to AntiMircoX. I also just don't like how 99% of Android apps "need" Google Play Services.

Linux is what I need, but there isn't any decent interface that isn't SteamOS (x86 only) or RetroArch (everything must use libretro) or batocera.linux (their version of emulationstation completely shits itself when ran outside of batocera, and I really don't want to recompile batocera)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are several x86/x86_64 on ARM emulators in development to solve this problem. The main two are box86 and FEX. Both are able to run Steam on ARM Linux already, with varying degrees of playability. There is also qemu which has been around for much longer, but qemu doesn't do much in the way of optimizing for speed while these newer emulators forward system and library calls on to native code where possible and use dynamic recompilation for speed.

I was able to play Half Life 2 from Steam on my PinePhone Pro when it first came out using box86. It was sort of playable.

[–] Meist 1 points 1 year ago

I still prefer having a "native" system menu over one that's being emulated.

[–] draecas 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. Steamos is only really great on deck because of the whole making the hardware and software thing. If other people use it it loses that and you end up with a computer with a less compatible OS.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not get reference to smartphones. In US iOS is dominated system.

[–] Pinobutter 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like how Android OS is developed by Google but published for other phone manufacturers to use and build off of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah! Got it. Like windows, Linux, etc…

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be OK with that, it's been excellent so far!

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