this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2024
87 points (93.1% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35944 readers
1951 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
87
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by ericbomb to c/nostupidquestions
 

In the US it's not crazy for kids maybe as young as 6 to make themselves sandwiches like a PB&J/Ham & Cheese either if parents have an emergency, or to take to lunch for themselves because parents didn't have time. (Or you know, they're neglectful)

So is there a go to food for children to make in other cultures?

EDIT: Sorry for phrasing it like teaching 6 year olds to cook is mainly to help parents. Personal experience of dad going to prison and mom working 12 hour days at early age shined through. So me being taught to cook wasn't "This is a skill that'll be useful as you grow older" but instead was a "Things are going to be rough, and sometimes things won't work out with me being there when I need too, and I want you to be able to be okay in an emergency". So cooked myself food when I was little probably a lot more than others, then when I was a teenager I was cooking dinner for the family a lot.

But makes sense it wasn't the case for others! Still the curious, what other cultures teach their children to cook!

all 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 3laws 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In Mexico it's

  • Quesadillas
  • Tacos of any leftovers
  • Torta of any leftovers
  • Cereal (I think this one is universal)
[–] RBWells 2 points 9 months ago

This list is about the same as my US kids, not torta but quesadillas, tacos or burritos, scrambled eggs and sandwiches; also noodles with chili paste from leftover spaghetti, which they call "hot noodle" and every single one of them learned early to cook that because they all liked it so much.

[–] Deestan 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Question frames it as neglect or neglect-with-excuses. Could also be the kids are practicing independence and life skills.

Which I guess may be a cultural difference by itself. :) Apart from the attitude towards it, Norway has pretty similar ones I guess.

  • Sandwiches
  • Toast with butter
  • Cereal
  • Fruit from the fruit bowl
  • Microwaved bread with cheese
  • Leftovers with ketchup
  • Carrots from the fridge

Maybe not age 6, but pretty early:

  • Fry egg
  • Soup (from bag, add hot water)

(Most homes have electric induction stoves, so the risk of catastrophic fire injury is low)

[–] ericbomb 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ahh sorry! Growing up was a bit rougher and it shined through, when really teaching kids to cook is super important. I'm 29 now and getting in the habit of cooking at a young age shines through every day.

BUt yeah pretty similar! But cheese in the microwave??? That sounds crazy to me. Everything else sounds about the same! We have top ramen for our soup.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, that bread with cheese thing is a trip.

My kid asked if he could have a grilled cheese and I said yeah and gather to make it and he’s putting bread with cheese in the microwave.

When the fuck did that become a thing?

I mean, don’t get me wrong I like warm bread with a little butter and some cheese on it, it’s comfort food to me, we used to have it for breakfast in elementary school.

But that uses at least Texas toast thick bread slices and goes in an oven, this little fucker just put a piece of American cheese on a piece of white bread and microwaved it.

Not even two pieces of bread just one!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not age 6, but pretty early:

  • Fry egg
  • Soup (from bag, add hot water)

My Lemmy app didn't properly format this as a list so I read it as "Fry egg-soup." I found myself thinking, "Fried soup? Damn, Norwegians do soup on a whole different level."

[–] Deestan 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ve make søup from coffee and fresh salmøn. Then ve fry the søup tu kill the fish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Now do the one about the moose!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Lucky you! I wasn't allowed to make anything more advanced than sandwiches. I would only make a mess, my mom complained. She was a bit obsessed with cleanliness and control.

I ate a lot of microwaved cheese sandwiches, and fried eggs as soon as I could move out, though. And spaghetti with ketchup. And rice with ketchup. Cheap and delicious food for a student.

[–] Anticorp 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There's an entire generation of Americans who were cooking for themselves and using the stove in elementary school because their parents were nowhere to be found. Everyone always forgets about them. They're known as Generation X, or the Latchkey Kids.

[–] RyruGrr 15 points 9 months ago

My favorite meal was cooking a hotdog on the open stove flame, campfire style. That charr was so good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yep, I would make Mac and cheese with cut up hotdogs in it starting when I was 6. It’s still my comfort food.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Traditional Danish lunch is rye bread with a variety of spreadings, sliced sausages and patés. Think of a simpler kind of smorgasbord (depending on the content in your fridge). There's a lot of traditional combinations all based on a thin sliced rye bread with butter, the main spread and often one or two toppings that go with the spread.

The kids learn to make these kinds of "sandwiches" in kindergarten, and it comes in handy when they get older and come home from school hungry.

It makes for a more varied choice than toast or jam sandwiches.

Examples: https://imgur.com/a/ZgGGUhy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no rye bread with herring in your photo, the Danish don't eat that? The Dutch do, topped with some chopped onions. Though my kids don't like rye bread, it is getting old fashioned over here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Curry-pickled herring with raw onion and caper on rye is the first dish served on our traditional Christmas lunch. Served with snaps.

Fish generally don't go to well in a lunchbox. The most common are mackerel in tomato with mayonnaise and cod roe with rémoulade, but most kids would frown at it. Also, it requires a fork and knife to eat. The traditional lunch box sandwiches are made to be eaten by hand.

I just found some random photo from the web. Apparently it's difficult to find a photo of our common lunchbox hand-served-rye-bread-open-sandwiches. Most are of restaurant high topped "smørrebrød", which also requires knife and fork.

[–] vind 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I always just did a sandwich with kaviar (not the fancy type) and cheese or a sandwich with spreadable liver paste and cucumber

Edit: Swedish

[–] fluxion 10 points 9 months ago

I was a little disappointed at how similar the Norwegian meals posted above were to the US, but Sweden delivered 👍

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In the UK it's tea and toast, a lot of kids by 4 or 5 can make tea and toast.

[–] Today 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do British kids drink tea?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Of course. You have smaller cups of more milky tea as a toddler.

[–] runwaylights 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I live in the Netherlands and I learned to make my own lunch from an early age. Can't say for certain at which age, but 6 or 7 sounds about right. I made lasagna when I was 11 and cooked other stuff regularly. My parents always stimulated me being self sufficient. And I saw the same happening with my friends.

[–] ericbomb 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh do you remember like the very first foods you were taught to make?

Mine were cold sandwiches, then the first cooked things were scrambled eggs and grilled cheese.

[–] runwaylights 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, cold sandwiches were probably the first as well. Then maybe boiled eggs, scrambled eggs were not really a thing in the Netherlands back then. After that I helped out with other stuff like boil rice of pasta. And I remember doing some simple groceries alone when I must have been between 11 or 12. But the supermarkets were only 10 minutes away by foot.

[–] ericbomb 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah boiled eggs!

Which I almost always turned into sandwiches.

Sandwiches power.

[–] runwaylights 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah, a good sandwich can make my day

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm the US, the first foods I was taught to make were breakfast foods. First the safe stuff like cereal, frozen hash browns, frozen Pop tarts, then (around age six) pancakes and French toast. Deviled eggs were also an early first.

[–] Jakdracula 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How was teaching a kid how to make a sandwich neglectful?

In your sentence you say“ If parents have an emergency, or to take to lunch for themselves because parents don’t have time”

How about parents who teach their kids how to make food so they have a life skill?

I have two teenage kids, one in college, and when is about to be in college. Since they were young, they have learned how to cook, make sandwiches, salad, fish, pretty much whatever they want. When they were around five or six years old, we started building out a weekly schedule of food and then budgeting it and going to the grocery store together and buying everything. Now they know how to take care of themselves in life even as a first year college student.

My kid in college shares with me that their classmates don’t even know how to do their laundry or read an analog clock, let alone cook anything for themselves.

I guess my long-winded point is there are actual parents out there like myself who teach their kids how to take care of themselves, including make a sandwich at six years old. We’re not neglectful. We’re not too busy, it’s teaching kids at an early age to take care of themselves and be responsible.

[–] ericbomb 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry personal experience of dad going to prison and mom working 12 hour days at early age shined through.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You should really try writing a country song, if you haven't. Like Token/Tolkien in South Park picking up a bass for the first time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The perfect country and western song has already been written.

[–] MasterHound 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Beans on toast is probably one of the first meals most of us learn here in the UK. Or a Pot Noodle, once you figure out how the kettle works.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Beans on toast, with Boursin on the toast is a thing of beauty.

[–] MasterHound 2 points 9 months ago

I've never heard of Boursin, I'll have to try that out at some point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Instant noodles or rice with fried eggs and/or luncheon meat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The first things I recall learning to make for myself were marmalade sandwiches and this concoction of pinto beans, sausage and cheese. I'd heat it in the microwave, which in classic American tradition was made by an offshoot of a defense contractor, Litton. The first thing I learned to cook on the stove, when I was 7, was scrambled eggs.

[–] ericbomb 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yesh beans and cheese were great! Never did it in the microwave, stove was just superior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

In the Netherlands open faced sandwiches are pretty common snacks kids will make. Slice of bread commonly with toppings like ham, gouda, hard boiled egg, etc. Also peanut butter is a popular topping for bread, though having it with jam is a lot less common than in the US.

A very specifically Dutch thing would be piece of toast with butter and then literally sprinkles on top (like you might put on ice cream). The Dutch eat a shitload of that stuff. Also popular on buttered toast or rusk are little anise seeds coated in sugar, referred to as muisjes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Apart from simple sandwiches my kids know how to open cans, cook pasta and fry eggs. Oh and make dino nuggets and fries and other stuff in the oven.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Norwegian here. My family grew up in the 90s on mostly on oatmeal in milk, with some jam or sugar added. I love it. Quick to assemble and doesn't make much of a mess to clean up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uncooked of course.

Why would anyone ruin it by cooking it into porridge?! (jk, but im no fan of it cooked)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I could roll either way with sugar, but if it was going to be Jam that has to be uncooked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Australian.

Vegemite and cheese sandwiches/on toast. Or Devon and tomato sauce sandwiches. Pretty standard in most houses for young kids.

[–] ericbomb 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting! Those are similar to what we have in the US, but sound very distinct. We have grilled cheese or ham/cheese, then probably just bologna/catsup is closest to devon and tomato sauce.

[–] Today 2 points 9 months ago

When my kids were 4 they got out bread and cheese and made themselves sandwiches. I felt like i must be neglectful, but i was proud of them for being self sufficient. McD's used to have 20 cent burgers on Wednesdays so i would buy a few plain ones each week and put them in the fridge. In kindergarten my kids could get one out and microwave it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Great lakes area of the US. Cheese sandwich or peanut butter sandwich super young. Cereal was also allowed. I can't think of anything else off-hand. As I got older, and we had more money, granola bars and the like and maybe microwave meals if/when we had them. My mom was too afraid I'd burn the house down if I actually used the stove. Once I was probably around 10 or 12, all manner of egg dishes.