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Do you think all of the over 13,000 dead children in Gaza were being used as human shields by Hamas?
https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/more-13000-children-reported-dead-gaza-famine-nears
You can tell who Hamas is because every member of Hamas surrounds themselves with 5,000 civilians wherever they go. So it’s easy really, just look for the large circle of 5,000 civilians and you know a member of Hamas is in the middle.
Defibitely not. I think some of them were used as soldiers or suicide bombers.
So Israel is not responsible for a single child death despite bombing the fuck out of a whole lot of places in Gaza, including refugee camps?
Yes, clearly that's exactly what I meant, Israel is and always has been entirely blameless in all of this
I'm not sure what you mean then since you seem to suggest that every child who has died was the fault of Hamas.
I don't know if they have all been killed as human shields, but I see no reason to think that's not possible. All hamas would have to do is to stay places that there are large groups of civilians.
I agree the famine is awful. I've also heard many stories of gazan civilians hating hamas for stealing all the supplies intended for civilians. I really just don't know which stories are true and which are false.
I know that I've been hearing for years how much the palestians hate hamas and hate having them rule over them. They haven't had any sort of elections or anything or any way to get new power there for like 30 years or something.
I know there are lots of people in the west that want to paint hamas as some sort of freedom fighters, but this is not the impression I've ever been under. I see them more like a weak version of the Iranian government, no regard for the lives of their people, and wanting all those awful sexist backwards ancient warlord "religious" teachings to be the official law of the land. Just like in Iran, many people want to join the modern world in regards to human rights, but the powerful over there want to hide behind a butchered version of a "god" to make themselves keep their power.
Sorry... you think it's possible that Hamas used 13,000 children as human shields?
Even Israel doesn't make that ludicrous excuse for killing them.
I'm not sure how you are picturing "human shields." I don't think it is literally holding a child in front of themseleves as if they are a literal shield like in a cartoon or something. If this is the case, then I agree with you, 13,000 does seem high.
I've never been in war, but the way I am picturing it is by having military headquarters in residential places so that if they get bombed, then a bunch of civilians get bombed at the same time. When you consider how many people could live in just a single apartment building, it makes that 13,000 seem much more realistic.
Well then maybe Israel should find a different way to get them that doesn't involve killing 13,000 children.
You really seem determined to not blame a single child's death on Israel during a time when they're bombing cities into rubble.
I pointed out that it seemed like Hamas is reportedly using human shields and asked a question about it. I never said anything remotely similar to Israel being innocent in this. Israel has lots of blame here. They are literally blowing up innocent children. The existence of a single bad actor does not make all other actors good. I get that it makes the situation seem much easier to understand and have answers for if we push everyone to extreme sides, but I think you will end up with a more realistic mental model of this(or any) situation if you accept that the world isn't actually so simple.