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Just weeks after hugely disruptive protests and strikes over pension reforms in France finally died down, businesses in the country are grappling with the fallout from a week of rioting.

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[–] bouh 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Your data is considering suicides... And a cop killing someone is also a murder, so it will go in the stats of people killed by gunshot.

So yes, cops are actually responsible for 15% of murders in France with guns. We can also say that cops kill more than terrorism.

If you're fine with this, there's no point discussing further.

[–] coffeewithalex 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I explicitly said that I'm all for justice. You are being dishonest with your last statement, which is an emotional reaction that is completely unnecessary. Cool down.

So if your sources are correct, then when comparing the organization that should have the monopoly on violence, to how much violence they enact, it's 15%,... it's kinda dumb, isn't it? It's dumb to expect the organization with the monopoly on violence to enact an order of magnitude less violence than the "competitors".

[–] bouh 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Man the monopoly of violence is certainly not the right to murder unarmed people! Do you realize what you're saying?!

[–] coffeewithalex 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When other people murder far more people, is the police just supposed to watch it happen?

Is there an end to your naive idealism?

[–] bouh 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not the question. Police stopping murderers doesn't mean police has to become murderers too. If I'm naive or idealistic, you're a fascist.

[–] coffeewithalex 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how is the police supposed to stop murderers who threaten to murder them? Care to elaborate your ultimate wisdom?

[–] bouh 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know there countries where the police is unarmed? It's called civilization.

[–] coffeewithalex 0 points 1 year ago

So you know that there's places where you don't exist? It's called everywhere else, but unfortunately I'm stuck with a dishonest person who keeps on spewing fallacies.

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